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Canon EOS 300D Review

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:24 am

For all those who are interested in the 300D:

<http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/>

Enjoy and let the discussions begin  Big thumbs up

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:31 am



I believe it has already been started on two or three different occasions over the past week.


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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:38 am

Yea, but did you already see the full review?

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:06 am



10 times....Im interested in buying it.
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:06 pm

They compare the 300 to the 10D and other powershot cameras, but I'd like to see a comparison with the D30 to answer the question: how is this camera improved over the D30.


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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:28 am

Hello,


Oops... sorry I just posted another thread after a search query returned nothing under '300D'...


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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:38 am

but I'd like to see a comparison with the D30

Well, if you have some spare time on your hands, you could look at the 300D review, look at its differences when they compare it to the 10D, then go look at the 10D review, look at its differences compared to the D60, then go to the D60 review and look at its differences compared to the D30, and after you filter it all out, you'll have a 300D to D30 compare/contrast...  Big grin

300D looks pretty sweet though.

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:00 am

Effectively in terms of image quality, it would seem the 300 IS a 10D wrapped in sheeps clothing, so any 10D/D30 image comparisons are probably a very good indication. And of course you're doubling the pixel count.

In terms of handling - well the big plus is a decent AF system on the 300D.

Personally I'd have some reservations about pre-programmed exposure and focus modes and the D30 might still be a more flexible tool, but overall, I'd say you'd have a better chance of getting the shot with the 300D.

Good though the D30 was, I think its now well eclipsed in terms of value for money by the 300D - though of course, the great image captured by the D30 2 years ago are just as great today. If you're happy with the D30 and can live with its limitations, you might be better investing in some new glass.

Cheers,

Colin

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:11 am

Colin? What do you call those little icons (Girl's head, Mountain, Flower, Runner, Star/Sun, etc) on the 10d/d60/d30? Aren't those "scene" modes just pre-programmed exposure modes as well?

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:26 am

Jeff, they are pre-set programs for af mode, af points, exposure, flash and metering (I think).

Never used them, never will...

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:03 am

Jeff - yes, the D30/60/10D has the "pictogram" program modes as well as TV/AV and Manual - the difference with the 300D is that as I understand it you don't have a facility to override certain settings - specifically the exposure mode and the AF mode.

Cheers,

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:09 am

is there a fixed price yet?
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:07 am

Hi Simon, I believe lots of online camera stores (b & h, ritz/cameraworld..etc) are already selling them for the SRP of $899 for only the body and $999 for the body and 35mm equivilant 28-80mm lense..

Anyone know what telephoto they suggest to purchase with this cam? How much is she?

thanks,
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:51 pm

I must say.... I'm also thinking to decide between a 300D and a Nikon D100...

The good thing with the 300D... Cheaper but still good.
The camera is only compatible with EF / EFS lenses... Does anyone know how much I have to pay for a lens around 100-400mm ?!? And wich of them are out yet?

Also: The memory packs... how much to pay for them with with Nikon D100 / Canon 300D ?!? And how much images can I save on them?

I hope someone can give some answers and help me with my decision...

thanks,
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:29 pm


Looks like you get a better deal overseas?

http://www.expressgroup.co.nz/shop/p_list.asp?Group=67

Prices here are up on others I have seen.  Crying

300D reliability, as it is made in Taiwan? Would that be an issue to be concerned about?

There must be some others in the wings. The 10D is available from another outlet for NZ$2750 body only.

Wait and see me thinks.
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:47 pm

Guys

I have to say I am very impressed with the quality and the value for money. I have been reading some personal comments from fellow photographers in the US and they have nothing bad to say.

I have a few questions for you guys.

My major problem is the lens set-up.

Just how good is the lens 18-55mm USM which comes with the package?

I work close to aircraft and I feel the Sony I have is great because it covers the very close to the further away without lens changes. I still want to retain a lens which is similar. Lets say (EQ35mm) 30mm-300mm

Is it best to have 2 lenses which you should change depending on size.

Can anyone recommend a good lens for me? Should it only be a Canon?

Thanks Guys
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:26 pm

Colin,

I have the Tamron 28-300 XR (which is very small and compact). It's definitely not the sharpest or best quality lens around, but it offers the flexibility of 45mm-480mm on my D60, which is absolutely brilliant. I'm sure the quality is better than any Prosumer camera.

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:48 pm

Guys
I am ready to order the 10D or 300D tonight but really need some help with a good 80-300mm or similar Lens.

Can someone recommend something from the list below. My Price range is max
£300

Does it have to be a Canon Lens?

Thanks
Colin


EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L USM £1249.99
EF 17-40mm f/4 L £689.99
EF 20-35mm f/3.5 USM £399.99
EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L £1199.99
EF 24-85mm f/3.5 USM £339.99
EF 28-90mm f/4-5.6 non USM £149.99
EF 28-90mm f/4-5.6 USM Unboxed £99.99
EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 USM II £259.99
EF 28-105mm f4-5.6 USM £219.99
EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 UIS £449.99
EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 £269.99
EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM £339.99
EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L UIS £1549.99
EF 70-200mm f/4.0 L £669.99
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III £139.99
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 USM £149.99
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 UIS £389.99
EF 80-200mm f/4.5-5.6 £99.99
EF 90-300mm f/4-5.6 non USM £179.99
EF 90-300mm f/4-5.6 USM £219.99
EF 100-300mm f/4.5-5.6 USM £299.99
EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L UIS £1349.99
EF 35-350mm f/3.5 L USM £1599.99
EF 2x Converter II £309.99
EF 1.4x Converter II £309.99
EF 50mm Macro f/2.5 £349.99
EF 100mm f/2.8 USM £539.99
EF 180mm f/3.5 L USM £1349.99
MP-E 65mm f/2.8 £879.99
EF Ext tubes 25mm £109.99
EF Ext Tubes 12mm £69.99
 
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:53 pm

EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 USM £149.99

This is a nice one
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:56 pm

Wietse

Thats the one which I thought would be good.

Can you point me anywhere on the net/airliners.net to some examples?

Thanks
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:07 am

Colin,
I was reading all of the posts and saw that you're interested in the 75-300mm. I have this, and use it on the Elan 7. Im desperate to upgrade to digital and the 300D looks like my answer. But if you'd like examples of the 75-300mm you can search my name and that the only lense I use outside pretty much. Most I'd use for the best quality is probally around eh...210-220mm ideally..once you go past things tend to get a bit soft..just hold it real steady.

Now my question about the 300D. I was reading above someone said "the D30/60/10D has the "pictogram" program modes as well as TV/AV and Manual - the difference with the 300D is that as I understand it you don't have a facility to override certain settings - specifically the exposure mode and the AF mode."
What exactly does this mean? Like no + or - compensations on all out auto-focus?? Stuff like that? If thats the only real main difference b/w the 300D and 10D im sold for the 300D! Any help is appriciated!


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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:58 am

Wietse

Which one do you have?
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III £139.99
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 USM £149.99
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 UIS £389.99

Your profile shows USMIII? Thats got me confused.

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:03 am

Colin,

Great to hear you will soon be a proud Canon user.

Wietse had the same lens as I used to as far as I am aware, the Canon 75-300mm f4-5.6 USMIII non-IS.

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:09 am

Colin,

If you can afford it maybe you should go with the Canon 35-350mm L lens. I think it goes through everything you would need on the tarmac. Otherwise some good lenses are the 24-85 and 70-200L f/4 which give a great value for great quality. I've been using them for a month and a half now and I'm totally satisfied.

Cheers & have fun when you become a Canon user,
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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:28 am

Thanks Ben

To be honest I always liked the D30/60 and 10D but it was just to far out of my price range. What made me change my mind? Well the EOS-300D consumer level camera reaches out to those who just cant afford the extra bucks. Remarkable reviews already and it has stolen the show, even Sony F828 has been put back until XMAS due to problems. I have to say Canon did the homework and are about to make a bucket full of money. Oh and I recently got myself involved in a photographic adventure which has started to make me some serious money, File libraries and stuff.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the lens you have is
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 USM £149.99
Is the one above the USMIII or is it just USM? I think the website has missed out the III.

Tim
Thanks, not quite ritch yet so have to start of like everyone else, wish list to my girlfriend will be written soon. I will save your post for future info.

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:38 am

yeah it is the USMIII.

And dont go for the 35-350, even if you get the money. Allthough it is built like a rock like all other L lenses, it is not in the same league optically as the 100-400 L IS

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RE: Canon EOS 300D Review

Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:45 am

Colin,

It's the USMIII. The III basically means it has cosmetic changes from the USM, USMI and USMII as far as I am aware. £149.00 sounds about right, I purchased mine second hand and paid £99.00 for it.

Very true what you say Colin, there are plenty of nice glass out there but we all have to start somewhere and work our way up.

Hope this helps

Ben Pritchard

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