bigphilnyc
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Approved Due To Disclaimers

Sun Oct 12, 2003 1:04 am

It seems to me that if there is somethign worng iwth your pic, that is you acknowledge it in your comments, that it can get approved.

I submitted this picture, and it got rejected due to badscan, which I cna undertsnad. No arguments about that. The heat haze KILLED me that day.

But then when I uploaded it and acknowledged that with the "hot hot day in NYC" comment, it was accepted.


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Ryan C. Umphrey has been TEARING IT UP latley, like everything of his that has gotten accepted it he past week are gold. But, no offense ot him, this one shot has a haze disclaimer like mine did:


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Not complaiing, so don't give me that. Just pointing it out, becuase I actually like it.

I don't think haze looks especially great, but it is interested, and if acknowledged, i think it's a good upload to have in the d/b.
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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Sun Oct 12, 2003 1:41 am

I think the haze is of two different types...In Phil's photo it is true heat rising from the runway and distorting things. To me the runway lights help to make the photo. What may have been ruined do to the heat distortion comes alive with the lights showing and drawing your eye to the airplane. It is so eye catching that the distortion is acceptable.

The haze on Ryan's photo is of the atmospheric type, almost a fog. I hate shooting in that, but Ryan has obviously been able to overcome it.

In short Phil, you are comparing two different things, but you have a great photo there.

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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Sun Oct 12, 2003 1:42 am

I've noticed the same thing, recognize the errors and it has a slightly better chance at getting in (depending on how the picture looks otherwise)  Smile


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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:36 pm

On the other hand it could get pretty annoying if people point out all the flaws with their pics and make "excuses for themselves".
If you feel like you gotta excuse yourself then perhaps it's better to wait until another time when you can take the same shot without the _problem_ in it.
Just a thought  Smile
 
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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:03 pm

But that's jsut it. Anyone who knows LGA knows how rare my shot is. A 764 deparitng on 22.....very uncommon. Plus I like the wing flex, and I think the haze gives it a little character.
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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:34 pm

I always try to include comments about adverse shooting conditions in the hopes of garnering more sympathy from the screeners. When you're a no-talent hack like myself you need all the help you can get.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy As an aside, I sometimes get a chuckle from the photo acceptance message: "The following photos were accepted without warnings." Is it possible to get a photo accepted with a warning? I would doubt it.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:07 pm

About 2 years ago (before screeners have taken over screening from Johan) it happened to get a photo accepted with warnings, but nowadays this part of the message doesn't match really and should be replaced. Or, am I wrong, screeners?

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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:29 pm

Let's see how far we can push it: next time I submit a totally black image and write "It was night"...
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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:34 pm

Johan can still accept photos with warnings when he does the photos left for him or the appeals
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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:59 pm

The biggest concern I have about this whole topic is that we let one of Phil's images into the database at all, excuses or not! Big grin

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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:43 pm

LOL. Andy, I'venow DOUBLED my anet pics in only a few short weeks! No more mentioning my only "5" pics! lol. I have 10 now  Big grin

I went back and re-editting a lot of my older shots and that helped me out too.

A Canon 10D will be mine soon, hopefully, so I'll multiply that but 1,000 within a year or two.  Big grin
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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:23 am

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?nr_of_rows=500&maxres=500&keywords=sorry&keywrange=remark&keyMatch=cont&first_this_page=0&page_limit=15&sort_order=photo_id+DESC&thumbnails=&engine_version=5.0&nr_pages=34&page=

All apologies. (That's a lot of "sorrys.") Kind of funny actually.

Seems the screeners have us trained well.  Big grin

I just want to take a moment to thank A.net for the "Comments to screeners" field.

 
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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:26 am

LOL. that's funny.

But I thinkw e jsut screwed our chances of this ever working agian. lol
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RE: Approved Due To Disclaimers

Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:51 pm

Bigphilnyc, a funny/sad story. I was on vacation from October 4-12 and had planned a trip down to Houston to do IAH and look around as I might possibly be transferred down there next year. Anyway, getting up every morning last week and looking outside it was nothing but overcast, rain, fog, haze, poor visibility, and according to the Weather Channel, nothing but rain, rain, and more rain for IAH the entire week. They even had a tornado that did some minor damage.

As for the comments to screeners, I usually try to include something to give the screeners a little better "feel" for the shot, and if pertinent to the image, I will include info in the remarks field to give the viewer a better idea of what I and other spotters were experiencing that day. DFW has been really difficult to shoot lately, and I've been trying a lot of new angles and lighting conditions that I've never done. I mentioned to another spotter one night last week as we were shooting in the dark at slow shutter speeds that I either must be dedicated, desperate, or a little off in the head to shoot as many images as I have lately just to get one or two good ones. Also days are getting shorter and soon the time will move back, putting an end to weeknight spotting and limiting me to weekends only.

BTW, Thanks for the plug on the T7 fog shot above. I try to self screen all my shots and did not hesitate to submit it after I worked it through Photoshop.

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