kc7mmi
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What's Your Success Rate?

Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:45 am

I take a bunch of photos of helicopters but I end up only wanting about 1/3 of the photos I get developed. Out of that only about half get on a.net. What is your success (if you wanna call it that) rate?
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:54 am

I probably only upload about 2% of what I take. Usually, they are interesting but borderline quality, so my acceptance is probably only 50%. If I chose that I knew were dead cert's it'd probably be more like 95-98% but I don't want all my shots in the d/b to be boring side-on's Big grin.

Oh wait... Sorry Tim  Big grin
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:33 am

Dunno.. I shoot like 150-170 on a day at the airport, and about 20 tops get uploaded of that day, but only if they are good. Sometimes I go to the airport, shoot 150 pics, and upload 2-3. But that doesnt matter, most important is that you have a great time shooting the pics.

I havent a clue what my acceptance ratio is here. Lately it hasnt been too good because of my DC-2 adventure  Smile But its most likely around 80-90%

Wietse
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:12 am

If you measure success by enjoyment...I am at about 99% I will also typically shoot 100 to 300 photos in a day, depending on the event. The joy is in shooting and trying to capture something "just right." Even if I don't it is fun.

Out of those photos I will usually upload 10 or so.....9 out of 10 are generally accepted....

 Smile
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:14 am


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lol my little DC2 adventure was succesfull afterall.  Smile

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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:18 am

Cool photo.. Wietse...

Yes I agree, I enjoy it alot, I enjoy it more when I catch something right, its always a shame when I realize when I get home that I haven't caught something right after all... Big grin
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:13 am

I upload about 40% of the photos I take. Of those, 30%-50% gets accepted, if I'm lucky. But sometimes it could go like 20%...

So; Out of a 36 film roll I've had 7-9 photos accepted at its best. It's a bit discouraging.

Maybe I should convert to digital, but it's still a bit pricey, even second-hand...
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:19 am

Wietse
good stuff that shot !
(what happened to the winglet ? )  Innocent
 Big thumbs up

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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:25 am

He mentioned in the other thread that some "blur" was removed, probably the same thing in dutch  Big grin

Staffan

 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:27 am

 Smile well it says that if the cloning is good for the pic and as long as its invisible, it is allowed  Smile So the winglet went Big grin

Wietse
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:33 am

Where did it go to? And if you cloned it, wouldn't there be two? Big grin

[Edited 2003-10-28 23:33:26]
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:36 am

Easiest way to achieve a high success rate here is to upload only top quality stuff. Submit mandane quality pictures of run-of-the-mill subjects taken in marginal conditions and its inevitable you'll get some failures. Be selective and self-critical - ask yourself honestly if the picture you're about to submit is top quality, and if it isn't then either don't submit it or be prepared for a knock-back.

I upload maybe 1% or at most 2% of what I shoot... Its not that the rest are no good, its just that I'm selective and I don't submit to make up numbers - I try to only submit pictures that I think will add something to the database. Doing it this way, I have a success rate that I'm very happy with.

Andy
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:05 am

You don't want to know what my success rate is. It's lower than Derek Jeter's number, though.
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:05 am

"Its not that the rest are no good"

Well, we will have to take your word for that Andy Big grin

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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:44 am

Ben,
nice one  Big thumbs up

Andy,
pretty normal you'll have a low rejection rate if you don't upload anything (or barely...).

Anyway, I'm kind of the opposite of Andy like to upload as much as possible, I go with the idea that it doesn't cost anything to try and upload, so I might as well try to sneak a few past. Haven't gone through my rejection rate recently but last time I checked it was around 90%.
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:55 am

"...I go with the idea that it doesn't cost anything to try and upload..."

Sorry, it costs the screeners time, in the end everybody with photos in the Q is harmed.

Luis
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:04 am

Sorry, it costs the screeners time, in the end everybody with photos in the Q is harmed.

Luis, true but it isn't my fault that they can't cope with the queue, in that case more screeners should be put on the job. All my pictures get put into the HQ, so I guess I'm not really wasting their time, you normally don't take more than 10-30 seconds per picture anyway...

Tim
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:53 pm

I try and upload every plane I shoot. After all, if I shoot it and store it on the hard drive then nobody's going to see it.....what fun is that????

The last batch was 20 uploaded, 20 accepted. somehow i dont think that rate will repeat with the batch currently waiting.

yesterday I missed a Cargolux 744, and today I missed an extremely rare sighting of Song....damn Well, maybe tommorrow i wont miss the AeroUnion Airbus. Its hard to work on technique when you can only shoot 1 or 2 planes per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:38 pm

Boeing747-400 said: Haven't gone through my rejection rate recently but last time I checked it was around 90%

That's dreadful...  Wow! 90% rejected!  Sad As Luis said, you are indeed wasting your screeners time then, as well as your own - you need to be more selective!  Wink/being sarcastic

Andy Big grin
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:39 pm

Hi All,

Much the same as most...
200 shots on a day, but likely to upload maybe 10-15 of those maximum.
I become very selective.

Being a screener, I've learned a few things
1. How to screen my own shots (figuratively - I cannot screen my own).
2. What are the common likes and dislikes of the other screeners
3. That we're all a reasonbly fair bunch - some rejections will be viewed by many screeners and commented on before rejection.

Of late I don't tend to push the envelope with border line shots as much as I used to try. The Canon 10D has helped tremendously.
After loading maybe one borderline shot out of let's say 30, it ends up being the one that gets rejected.

Screening my own shots, I never really get surprised by the odd rejection anymore.

Acception rate since 10D is about 95%.

Btw - Excellent DC3 shot Wietse. I saw the Black and White version, but really thought it would look brilliant in colour. Excellent work, and a pleasure to screen.

Regards,

Glenn Stewart
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:48 pm

That's dreadful... 90% rejected! As Luis said, you are indeed wasting your screeners time then, as well as your own - you need to be more selective!

What the hell am I writing, should have read 90% accepted... Sorry for the mess up. I don't upload as much as I'd like to, I have about 2500 photos waiting to be processed which are of A.net quality, guess it's the same for everyone...

Glenn, I probably shouldn't be writing this on A.net but anyway. Since I've become a screener on another site (Plane........ .net), it's helped me on A.net also. I've only been there for a few weeks now though. It avoids me uploading stuff that's of low interest or taken from bad angles. On the last batch I didn't get any rejections, so I guess its helping me...

Cheers,
Tim
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:58 pm

Tim,

You know, I was only joking with you - I knew what you meant, but you just didn't say it like that. If you've got another 2500 a.net images waiting, please don't upload them all at once though  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Andy
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:58 pm

Tim,

Are you not worried that people belived you had a 90% rejection rate?  Laugh out loud

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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:07 pm

Andy,
might actually upload a couple hundred today, it's raining, I'm on vacation. Don't think the screeners would like my name after that though.  Insane

Ben,
I'd be an upload guru to have the number of pics I have on the database with a 90% rejection rate.

Cheers,
Tim
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:23 pm

It depends if I am taking slides or using the 10D. With slides of course I'm much more selective when taking the shots. My process goes something like this.

1) I scan all the slides into the PC, and select which ones, at first glance, are of A-net potential. i.e. interesting angle, good quality, etc. For Slides it maybe around 30% of what I shot. For Digital maybe 15%.

2) I'll process all the selected pictures and get them as good as I can and ready for upload. I might drop 25% of the initial selection at this point, because in processing I discover some problem and I can't get a good result.

3) I'll open A-net and check what has been previously uploaded for each registration that I have prepared. If someone else has loaded an almost identical picture, or I have, from the same airport, I'll dump it unless there is a particular reason, like my new photo is of better quality than the one already there. Take another 10 or 15% off the selection.

4) Set up my info file and upload.

So all in all, I end up uploading about 20% of what I shot for slides, and around 10% of what I shot on digital.

I have a rejection rate that probably runs around 2 or 3%

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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:01 pm

If I was to take away the dozen or so badcopyright logo rejects and the odd baddouble and even one that was deleted last week after 24 hours for badpeople  Angry
I must be near the 95%+ acceptance rate

My own rule of thumb when uploading is 'will this picture add anything' to the database?

Derek
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:49 am

Speaking of badcopyright, I got that yesterday for no reason...didn't have anything on my pic.
-Benjamin
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:03 am

..while I'm going off...
I uploaded a total of 26 good shots (IMHO). Immediately 17 or so were rejected. I fixed 'em and reuploaded. Still, I got 9 rejected and decided to forget 4. Two of those were of a plane crash (photos were the best I could get, one of 'em taken at the press only area) and another was another important one to me, a shot of a Robinson R-22 cockpit. I hope no more screeners reject my remaining 13 photos. We need a "crossing fingers" smilie (emoticon).
-Benjamin
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:23 pm

Recently I uploaded 18 and 5 were accepted. I think I would have blown one of those off also. The good news for our screeners, is even though I thought the 13 were acceptable, after I got the rejection notice I looked at them and the screeners were right. It's good to have flaws pointed out, but it's even better to realize what you did wrong so you can improve things next time.
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:14 pm

Emmett99,
Couldn't agree more!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: What's Your Success Rate?

Sat Nov 01, 2003 3:57 am

Over the last 16 months and over 100 rolls of uploading, I learned to screen myself first (the photos of course), and then submit. When I look at my early shots I laugh, because some of them feature interesting a/c but lack in quality.

I once went through all my uploads (I record that in a special notebook) and came out with 502 shots accepted to 913 uploaded. That comes around to 55%, which is fairly decent, I think. (So in total I only waste half of the screeners` time  Big grin )

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