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What Editors Do No.5

Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:52 am

The Database Editors team has finished the standardization of another two subjects and will try to keep these up-to-date.

It would help if the photographers use the Auto Complete feature as much as possible for the upload. All regular registrations for e.g. the Concorde are represented by photos, and Auto Complete would give you all the details.

The subjects that have been done this time are:

The locations for Brazil:

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And the Concorde, they are now all listed with the correct manufacturer's name that was valid at the day of their first flight:

Sud-BAC Concorde:

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Aerospatiale-BAC Concorde:

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Aerospatiale-British Aerospace Concorde:

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The editors are still working hard at some other subjects, but these are not yet finished. They are also busy transferring construction numbers from the Remarks field to the dedicated Construction Number field.

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sat Nov 08, 2003 6:19 pm

I really like the Auto Complete feature, it speeds up the upload process as you don't have to check for the exact a/c model every time from the JP's etc.

However, I still get Alajuela (San Jose) - Juan Santamaria International (SJO / MROC), Costa Rica from "SAN" in the airport field.  Big grin

-Joge
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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:55 pm

Can we have Pacific Blue added to the drop down menu too please?

Keep up the damn fine work you're doing!
 
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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sat Nov 08, 2003 9:41 pm

Joge, we are investigating why SAN is giving Alajuela as SAN should give San Diego.

Cathay112, Pacific Blue Airlines has been added.

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sat Nov 08, 2003 10:05 pm

Invader, or any one else in the editors team, feel like changing my home airports name to the correct one as it's visible in this photo?  Smile


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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:35 am

Keep up the good work guys  Big thumbs up

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:57 am

How about changing Auto-complete feature for Denver (DEN)? Whenever you put that in, it'll fill it up as Stapleton - International (closed). I think it should either change to Denver - International, or let us choose between the two.

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:16 am

JoakimE, what is wrong with "Borlange / Falun - Dala (BLE / ESSD)"? On the picture it says Dala airport Borlänge-Falun, which becomes Borlange / Falun - Dala at Airliners.net.

We use Borlange instead of Borlänge because we use English names and spellings, which means for Borlänge leaving the accent off. We use Borlange / Falun instead of Borlange-Falun because the airport serves the two cities Borlange and Falun which we indicate by a slash. When we use a dash it would mean that the airport name is Falun and that it serves the city of Borlange only. We use Dala and not Dala Airport because we always leave "Airport" off. Dala is separated from Borlange / Falun by a dash which is our standard way to indicate the name of the airport.

So, in short, "Borlange / Falun - Dala" at Airliners.net means that the name of the airport is Dala, and that it serves two equal cities, Borlange and Falun. We use this standard for all airports in the world.

Alex, we are investigating the DEN case too, it should indeed give the choice between the old and the new Denver airport.

Josh, we try, but we could do much more real database work when we would not be busy all the time with making unnecessary corrections for subjects that are fully explained in the Help items on the upload pages, but that are apparently not read  Sad

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:51 am

Invader, first of all, thanks for the lengthy explanation  Smile
Second, the official name of the airport is Dala Airport (the company is called Dala Airport AB), and is largely owned by the towns of Borl?nge and Falun. I have no problem with the Borlange / Falun part, but I must insist that the "Airport" part is included in the name, otherwise, well, it's not correct  Big grin
Around here (I live in Falun) we refer to the airport either as "Dala Airport", "Borl?nge flygplats" (flygplats is the Swedish word for airport) or "Rommehed" (which is the part of Borl?nge where the airport is located)
I would appreciated it very much if you could consider re-standardizing the name as "Borlange/Falun - Dala Airport (BLE/ESSD)" instead  Smile

Oh, and thanks for all the hard work you do around here, much appreciated as I hope you know  Smile
 
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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:03 am

Peter - while we're on this subject, I replied a while back to the email you sent in August regarding database editing - If you need any help with editing or the "unnecessary corrections" I'd be happy to help with either of these things, you know where I am  Smile Big thumbs up

Josh
 
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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Sun Nov 09, 2003 8:58 am

JoakimE, please read the Location Help item at the upload page, and you will see that "airport" is not to be used. We're not going to make an exception for Dala, as most other airports also have "Airport" in their name!

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:56 pm

Joge, SAN is now giving San Diego instead of Alajuela/San José (and similar cases are also giving the correct name now).

Alex, we are still working on DEN and other cases where there is multiple choice for a designator.

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:16 pm

Ok, thanks Peter. I guess I should then upload more pics from SAN...  Smile

-Joge
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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:41 am

Peter, today I was at work, we needed quickly a registration of a portuguese air force P-3 Orion. I thought about Airliners.net, I went to my PC but when browsing through the airline menu I couldn't find Portugal - Air Force neither Navy. Can these be added?

thanks
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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:13 am

Luis, Portugal - Air Force and Navy have been added.

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:36 am

Sorry but I have to say a big thank you very much for your feedback Peter.

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:46 am

sometimes there are some locations in the drop down menu of the search engine but when uploading pics, it is not on the drop down menu there.

will these be added subsequently? but it's been a while that some were included in the search drop down yet not the upload.

We upload many shots from "Penang - Bayan Lepas International (PEN / WMKP)" but its not on the upload form which could be found on the search engine.

Due to that, there have been others visiting this airport (not frequent) and they upload using another name and thus causing non-standardized location fill.

In fact I have emailed the crew about this but maybe they're busy with other stuff.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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RE: What Editors Do No.5 Cn/ln

Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:08 am

Peter:

Now that you've been talking about the cn field; which is the correct way for Boeing and McDonnell Douglas, "cn/ln" or simply "cn"?

I try to fill it whenever is possible but I see that both ways are being used. The help text is not clear IMO, and it's a pity that a relatively new field is beginning to be misused Sad

Thanks in advance!

Toni

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:12 am

Taken from the upload help:

For some airliners like Boeing and Douglas types, the line number (ln) shall also be included. These line numbers are assigned by the manufacturer to indicate the position of the aircraft on the production line, while construction numbers for these aircraft are normally assigned when a batch of aircraft is ordered, the cns are rarely reflecting the order of production. However, the line numbers are not an official part of the cn, and therefore they are not listed in national registers. When listing a line number use the form cn/ln, as e.g. 43567/234.

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:19 am

I see it clear, now! Embarrassment

Thanks!

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:22 am

Yes, it's very helpful when the Boeing & MD aircraft have their cn listed as cn/ln. As a corrections editor, I'm trying to process a lot of these now and standardize them. Feel free to send in corrections of cn numbers on your own photos. The other team members and I will take care of it.

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:43 pm

and another thing about cn's

for Tristars it should be like
193Y-1177 and not 1177

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RE: What Editors Do No.5

Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:45 am

Airbus Lover,

Penang has now been added to the upload list, together with some more Malaysian airports.

Your email was not lost, but we were indeed busy with some other stuff. There is always a large backlog of things to do, but even then we like to work to our own agenda now and then.  Smokin cool

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