Bronko
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Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Sun Nov 23, 2003 1:38 am

http://www.blarg.net/~bronko/Aviation/aviation.htm

This picture was rejected for bad contrast, but of course looks good to me or else I would not have uploaded it. The lighting that evening was really odd, and I did not mention it to the screeners.

Anyone think it needs more than just some additional brightness? I may just toss the photo if I have to do to much to fix it, as I think it did capture the light that evening.
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Sun Nov 23, 2003 1:48 am

Huh?

Good shadow detail. No fuselage blowout.

badcontrast?
 
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Sun Nov 23, 2003 3:16 am

Looks good to me, the sun is low anyway and causes the "high" contrast.

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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Sun Nov 23, 2003 3:24 am

Great lighting, looks good to me.

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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Sun Nov 23, 2003 8:51 am

Looks fine to me...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:06 am

It looks good to me  Confused Kevin
 
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:45 am

the only thing I can think of is the dark blue, which appears somewhat washed out on the tail compared to the fuselage, but that might just be from the sun

Was there a message from the screener? You can always appeal, or retweak and reupload
 
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Sun Nov 23, 2003 11:17 am

Just try burning the tail some.. and don't sharpen to the point of jaggies. I like it!

Jeff
 
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:07 am

Really crisp shot. I don't get it  Confused

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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:44 am

Thanks everyone. I will try tweaking and reuploading. Since I am not appealing the shot, do I simply reupload as a new photo?

Royal: No extra comments from the screeners.
Jeff: What do you mean by 'burning the tail'?

I would like to hear any comments from the screeners, since they might see something we aren't
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:57 am

There are two tools on the PhotoShop palette that look like little wands, one is dark, one is light. One "dodges" the negative as in the old days, and makes things a little lighter, the other "burns" the negative and makes things a little darker.

You can burn or dodge Highlights, mid-tones, or shadows to varying degrees, and with different sized brushes.

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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:03 am

Beautiful colors! IMHO, they really bring out the bright livery of ATA and the shininess of the plane! I'm no professional, but if I were you, I'd appeal it.
-N243NW Big grin
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:18 am

Jeff,
How did you dodge and burn negs? I used to dodge and burn prints in the darkroom.  Big grin

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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:03 pm

Try running the 3 Auto (Levels, Contrast, Color) "Items", I ran them real quick and it helped make it a little more brillant (can't really explain it very well).
 
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:10 pm

Bill???? You know what I meant!  Smile I was trying to describe the process of dodging / burning from a negative. Anyway...those tools work well in photoshop, I don't recomend using "auto" anything in Photoshop....

Jeff
 
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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:25 pm

Just pulling your chain Jeff.  Big thumbs up

I completely agree about avoiding auto-adjusting. It's too blind a process.

Believe it or not, the BEST trick to learning to be a better photographer is a basic, Photo 100 class with a black and white darkroom lab. (Shock!) You can find one at nearly any community college. It's all about fundamentals.

At the very least you'll finally understand what all those funny looking tool icons in Photoshop really mean!



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RE: Any Advice For Fixing This Rejection?

Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:05 pm

Thanks again everyone. Hopefully I will have some time soon to try all of your suggestions. I really need to take a PS class, or find a good book. But, as Bill pointed out, a photog 101 class might help with the underlying fundamentals.
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