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Spotting In Miami?

Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:17 pm

I may have a chance to go to Miami for a weekend of spotting next pring. Is it worth it? Is there any where you can get good shots from? I'd hate to go all the way there and not be able to get some good photos.

Thanks,

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:16 am

I actually need to book by the end of today. So any information would be very helpful.

Thanks,

Dave
 
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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:24 am

If you are not from MIA area then you'll be in heaven.
Plenty places to take pictures from. Action all day long!!!
I love that airport.

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:29 am

Sweet! Thanks! I'm gonna book my ticket tonight!

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:01 am

Do a Google search with the words "miami spotting" and you'll find sites with more information, maps, etc. Art Brett has an excellent site.

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 5:02 am

I found one called anniebees.com but she says "nice to have rather than a necessity as it is at JFK in New York." and she is talking about a long zoom lens. Is it true you need a real long zoom lens at JFK?

Also she says that you can stop along Perimeter Rd - a large dirt area on the right.... Well I thought all along this road was barricaded off after 9/11? Is it now at least slightly open in spots? I do know from when i used to live in FL that Perimeter Rd used to be bustling with plane watchers.

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:36 am

I will respond with some of my favorite locations later but its not really true you need a super long lens. Like if a Boeing 767 is holding on runway 12, 75mm (DSLR) is too much. To be safe though. just pack something xx-200mm.

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:42 am

I found one called anniebees.com but she says "nice to have rather than a necessity as it is at JFK in New York." and she is talking about a long zoom lens. Is it true you need a real long zoom lens at JFK?

wow. that 'she' is Art Brett, but since he paired up with BigPhil, i'm having my doubts  Big grin.

zoom at JFK depends really on what you want to shoot. departures from 31L [Howard Beach] is a nice stretch, while landings on 31R aren't so demanding. 300mm+ and the ability to generously crop is good enough. wait, this thread is about MIA  Nuts.
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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:33 am


YHU,

Come down, Miami is not as great as pre-9/11 (just like everywhere else in the U.S) but still very good for variety and photo opportunities. There are even the popular "photo holes" that offer great photo opportunites of runways 8, 12 and 9L.

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I passed by Perimeter Rd Sunday afternoon and I was glad ( Big grin )to see a kid about 10 years old with his mommy next to him taking pics (that reminded me of myself.. awww) and another guy in his car also taking pics with a digital camera of the 27L departures.

Before 9/11 there were holes in the fence across this same same spot, so you could get good touchdown shots of landings on 9R. Even at night there were even other types of action going on too!.. (exiting isn't it?) ...just j/k. Now there are barricades there, the holes are gone, and with that any kind of action is gone too.

I get the sense if security wasnt so ridiculous there might be just as many people.. (and possibly a lot more action) if not more than before.

but you'll still have a good time
 
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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:12 am

Enjoy South Beach Big grin

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:21 am

I don't know when you are coming down but MIA is pretty relaxed about photography. I have been asked "what are you doing?" or they have examined my gear, etc. but I've only been asked to move or leave once or twice. I think everyone around there knows what is going on. Art's site is pretty good though it hasn't really been updated. The truth is, if you drive around MIA, there are plenty of good spots. If you are looking for the classic MIA shots, just go to the 12/9L/8 holes on the eastern end of NW 25 St. Where Perimeter road ends and NW 12th (maybe 13th) St. there is an intersection and north of that is another "classic spot" for 9R. These locations are great for western arrivals and eastern departures, but when ops are in from the east, out the west, they really are no good (I have a few pics on here that show you what you can get...really high planes). For landings on 30, it's hard to get any good shots because of trees at the best possible location (94th Aerosquadron restaurant). For 27R and 26, there are great spots if you drive north on LeJune and turn off on one of the side streets (east) that are next to the AA hangars and the start of 27R. Also, if you drive down past the holes to the true end of the street, you can park and stand on top of your car and be really close to the 30 turnoff and you can get great shots of planes taxing off of 27R and 26. I would not recommend that (and you should not stay up there) but I saw some people doing it today...Good luck!

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:24 am

Why did they eliminate holes on the southside, but it's still OK on the north side?

It's probably not as fun for me, since there are no more AA 727 roaming around.  Sad
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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:38 am

Amerijet, DHL, Aeropostale, Fedex, Falcon, charters, etc still operate many 727s into MIA daily...not the same as AA but still quite a bunch of them are still there.

I am not sure why they closed off the old southern holes and not the northern ones..
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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:23 am

Can you still photograph from these buildings, even briefly? I thought I heard that after 9-11, they stopped non-employees at the entrance.


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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 12:47 pm

Graham Hitchen told me that a security guard let him and his kid up on top of one of the cargo buildings and he was not hastled for a pretty good amount of time, and this was recently. I guess if you have the "right" guard and go at a good time you may be able to get up there. What about from atop the hotel? is that any good for photography? I have yet to go up there...

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:19 pm

I'm confused.

Are you confirming there IS a security guard at the ENTRANCE???
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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:59 am

Well I assume there is a security guard...Graham said he "allowed him in" so there must be one. I mean post 9/11 pretty much assures you a security guard at any airport facility. Does anyone know about photography from the hotel?
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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:01 pm

There is a security guard sitting in a guardhouse at the top of the ramp on the roof. They are supposed to prohibit entry to anyone not having business with the building tenants and they will often call down to the tenant to verify that the visitor is expected. All of this is due to the amount of crooks in Miami who saw the parking areas as prime pickings for car thefts and break-ins due to the remoteness of the rooftop parking.

I don't think 9/11 had anything to do with this whatsoever - it was car thefts.

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:38 pm

I have to laugh ... you wouldn't believe how many e-mails I get from people addressed to Annie or, when not addressed, written thinking that the recipient would be a woman. Surprise .... NOT. The Anniebees.Com web site is Anne's and my web site and covers lots of different activities that we engage in, among them Aviation Photography. The name of the site derives from my wife's name, Anne, our last initial and my strange desire to hook that into something that flies ... the Bee in Anniebees. We love it, but always have to explain it to everyone.

Now, in reference to the long lens at JFK ... Brian is right. There are certainly places that demand a long lens. I shoot digital and can grab shots at the equivalent of 600mm from these spots and get acceptable results. For example, shooting 04R arrivals from Bayswater is completely within the capabilites of a 300mm lens, but getting a touchdown on 04L is not while I can with the 600mm equivalent.

Now, about MIA. A really long lens is not a requirement there. And, yes, I did say that you could park along the Perimeter Road, and you can. I didn't say that you might not be chased away. That's a possibility, but I wasn't the last time I was there. I also understand that the holes in the fence which are now clearly designated as a no parking area are fine as long as you walk to them and do not park in the restricted area. I heard this recently, but I haven't tested it myself.

And, Futterman, not to worry about me and Phil - lol

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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:39 am

I was at those holes a few months ago and was asked to leave and stand behind the barricades that were put up...I will try again though...
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RE: Spotting In Miami?

Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:43 pm

I used to work at KMIA, there are some photo holes just north of the control towers, right in front of the Customs building. The cargo buildings do have guards that stop you from driving on top of the buildings, but if you go around the sides, the 'towers' on each building are where the elevators will take you on top for some nice shots, there is no security preventing you from taking the elevator to the top.
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