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How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:53 am

How long did it take you to get good at it, then your photos accepted.... I'm rellay wondering about the people who submit too much like Kazim Alikhan or Grant Feggi......

Anyone?
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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:56 am

It took three days with a C-740. It wasn't really about the actual pictures, but the post processing. I then went back on many of my shots and uploaded them with my new photoshop skills (though still very, very limited). If you are targeting specific photographers it's best to e-mail them...
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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:58 am

about 2000 shots, and im still learnin...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:07 am

Still learning, but I shot this one the first hour I took my new camera outside for the first time.  Wink/being sarcastic


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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:44 am

Great Jan! Experience is everything! Good photo equipment still has to be operated in a proper way.

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:50 am

Have been learning for 2 days now Smile, although I expect to not have a problem getting my digital shots accepted.

As Anders said: experience is everything.

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:53 am

Still learning Martin.... still learning!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Still, being digital makes the learning that much more fun IMHO.

Cheers!

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:00 am

Above I did not wish to imply that I mastered digital photography in 3 days. That was only to get my first picture accepted. I, and I believe most would agree, think learning all about photography is an everlasting process...
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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:30 am

To adapt to digital from film probably took about a month of intensive shooting - at this point I'd stopped trying to translate digital-film and vis-versa, and the technology felt comfortable.

I think maybe 6 months before I felt I was really taking full advantage of what the camera could do and was perhaps pushing things beyond what I had previously acheived with film.

I think now I'd find it very hard to go back to film  Smile

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:36 am

First shot I ever took with a digital camera is on this database...! Using a D60 is just like using a film SLR, although I'm sure ckw will have something to say against that!

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:56 am

Using a D60 is just like using a film SLR

I really shouldn't rise to the bait but ...

1 - a negative point is that I had to learn to adapt to workflow of my DSLR
that frame buffer limit I did find a bit frustrating at first - and missed a few shots because of it - took me a while to change my way of shooting to work with the buffer instead of against it.

2 - another difference was optimum exposure - very easy to get blown highlights (and more so with the 10D than the D60) - in fairness, the D60 is probably no more worse than shooting slide, but the 10D is a little more touchy

3 - on the plus side, the review and histogram make getting really accurate exposures much more simple. With film, I'd expose conservatively, or bracket and keep my fingers crossed. Digital lets you refine the exposure for the optimum in any condition.

4 - variable ISO - lets you adapt to the conditions as and when they change.

5 - and of course you can shoot so much more ... for me at least that means I take more chances, try things I would find too risky with film. For instance shooting at lower than normal shutter speeds, hand holding ultralong lens rigs, weird lighting etc, etc. ... of course, some people do this very well with film, but for me the combination of 0 cost combined with instant feedback has certainly changed the way I shoot.

Without a doubt, anyway with SLR experience will be able to shoot good pics straight off the bat ... but I'd suggest that a DSLR will, in time, change the way you shoot.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:20 am

Dammit Colin, why do you have to be so precise, AND right, ALL the time! Big grin

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:23 am

Took me about 500 shots on my Canon G2 from my old Nikon FG-20 SLR to get up to speed. Now only if I could move to a DSLR, then I would be unstoppable.  Innocent

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:40 am

Dammit Colin, why do you have to be so precise, AND right, ALL the time!

You know I only do it to annoy  Smile

Cheers,

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:19 am



You never ever really get to knowing it all in photography....I learn somthing new each time out.

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:33 pm

Practice... there is no perfect though, you strive, learn, practice, and get better. The second you stop learning, your shots start sucking/getting old...

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:54 pm

The second you stop learning ...

Yes ... and perhaps that's the best thing of all about switching to digital - it forces you to think about what you're doing again.

Cheers,

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:36 pm

My first attempts at digital went directly to the DB...but then, itis a rare aircraft :

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Actually, I still wonder why no one had shot it before or shot it again afterwards...
Anyway, becoming good at it meant two words : PowerShot and G5.  Laugh out loud

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:58 am

8 months that I have my 10D, and still learnin new tricks with it. As Colin said found it a bit tricky on exposure.

Also interesting is to learn new worflow for the editing, it's amazing how different results I could get from one shot edited differently on PS.

I don't think It's possible to master photography, evrytime I go out I'm confronted to a new challenge of different ligths, angles, lenses capabilities, locations, people, events and I think that is the main point of interest for me
in photography. Digital has just brought an other dimension to it, but the essence is the same...

I would be doin something else If I knew everything about it. Learning keeps me moving forward ..

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:16 am

Colin, I was just going to start a thread about this. Hands down, this is one of the most brilliant photos I have ever seen.  Big thumbs up

Great work! That is one heck of a retinal stimulator! (read: eye candy!)


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I don't folllow the innuendo being discussed about, but did you recently go from film to dlsr?

regardless, all I can say is WOW!

PS I certainly hope this soon make's the editor's shots.

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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:27 am

How long have you guys been shooting in general?
 
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RE: How Long Did It Take You To Get Good At Digital?

Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:47 am

Mirrodie - thanks for that - lot of luck on that one ... converging aircraft, narrow angle of view, you don't so much see what's happening as sense it and press the shutter - believe me, I have tried unsuccessfully to repeat that shot ever since  Sad

Actually I've been on digital for 2 years now, and still apreciating it more each time I go out - in answer to Donder's question, I was on film 25 years before hand ... so perhaps you can teach an old dog new tricks!

Cheers,

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