redfox
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Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:14 am

All,

Have received e-mail from an editor of a Dutch aviation news website who informs me one of my photos is being used at http://vliegtuigen.web-log.nl/

I looked at the site and recognised lots from airliners.net, are any yours?

The site looks non commercial but I cannot read Dutch, Is there any legal advise anyone can give?

Stephen Fox
 
PUnmuth@VIE
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:05 am

Just send an E-Mail to
teun777@hotmail.com
and they remove the pics.
Peter
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IL76
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:58 am

Stephen,
I just went to that site, and he openly complains on the first page about your (and someone else's) email and the removal of the pictures. This guy obviously doesn't know that to use someone else's pictures, you need to ask permission. Politely asking for the use gets you a lot further in life than just taking. He'll learn one day, I guess...
Cheers,
Eduard
 
wietse
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:06 am

I just replied to him...

Wietse
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:35 am

Good job Wietse Smile

Tim
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redfox
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:21 am

Hmmm, I would just like to say I was contacted by the editor of a Dutch/Belgian aviation news site who informed me that one of my photos was being used with out any kind of copyright/referencing information. It would appear that the owner/editor of the website in question is taking news from my Dutch/Belgian friend and photos from photographers contributing to this site and claiming to be his (without any kind of reference).

When I studied toward my Honours Degree this kind of practice was called plagiarism and therefore ILLEGAL.

Eduard, I have just visited the site again and you are right - again I don't understand Dutch so could someone please translate his message:-

Al het nieuws is tijdelijk verwijderd omdat 2 vliegtuigspotters het niet goed vonden dat ik 1 foto van hun op deze site heb gezet. Die ene (Stephen Fox) zegt, dat als ik dat plaatje een jaar op mijn site wil hebben, 300 euro moet betalen, anders sleept hij mij, en deze site (wat dus geen bedrijf is) voor de rechter. Dit is dus echt heel erg overdreven...
Over een tijdje is de site weer volledig operationeel

I find the message quite offensive as all he had to do was e-mail me and ask for permission (like others) and it would have been granted instead he rips me and others off claiming (implying) all work is his but when the circle tightens names me not others!!!

Stephen Fox

 
wietse
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:25 am

All news messages are temporarily on hold because 2 photographers didnt agree with me putting 1 of their shots on this site. One of them (Stephen Fox) says that if I want to have a pic of his on my site for 1 year, he wants 300 euros, or else he will sue me and this site (which happens to not be a company). This is very exagerated. In a while the site will be fully operational!


Plus he called the post 'Egoism'

Wietse
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:44 am

Think he got a second reply on his homepage Big grin

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wietse
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:50 am

lol Sven... Smile somehow its always more fun to deal with Dutch trespassers  Big grin

Wietse
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ebos
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:54 am

Seems the site is off-line now... looks like the problem is solved Big grin

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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:55 am

Job well done  Big grin

Wietse
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redfox
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:16 am

Wietse,

Thanks for translating the message, what is meant by 'egoism'?

Would just like to add, the purpose of the post was to inform fellow airliners.net photographers and crew that their work was being used in an inappropriate manner and as a united front should act against plagiarism.

Stephen Fox
 
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:09 am

Egoisme was the word, sorry for the typo. I guess it translates into you being Egocentric. Because you refused him to have that pic online.

Wietse
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IL76
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:01 am

"Egoisme" in Dutch means "Selfishness"...
 
wietse
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:03 am

How could I not think of that word  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Wietse
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redfox
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RE: Stolen Photos - Copyright Violation?

Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:33 pm

Well, I did not actually refuse photo usage just pointed out, it and others were apparently stolen I wanted a usage fee because of that.

I don't think that is selfish just acting after theft of my property.

The circle was closing in on the site and the remark of 'Egoisme' I am sure was aimed at many including the author if 'his' news articles.


Stephen

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