LHSebi
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Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:27 pm

Hello all,
I was hoping someone could give me some advice for a "beginners" lens. I am thinking of getting the 300D, but I have read several threads, where everyone discusses the different lenses they use, and it doesn't help me at all. If I want a decent lens with which I can make some good photos, but not spend half a fortune on it, which should I get? Thanks for any help!

Sebastian
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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:44 am

I guess you are not talking of a compact camera because they have a fixed lense, i.e., you cannot change them. Big grin

Since you will probably not get too close to the airplanes you need a lense with a high focal length, a telephoto (fixed) or zoom (variable) lense. Now there are two caveats with these. 1) The cheap ones tend to be iffy on the light circumstances. A good lense will be light intensive, but that makes it expensive. 2) Even small vibrations wil cause the picture to be blurred because the vibration is "magnified." [I don't know how to explain this better.] Thus, a tripod is a must.

Lenses tend to be the most expensive part of camera equipment. The better the light intensity the more expensive the lens gets. It also depends on which lense you get. Sigma is cheaper than Zeiss. One way of getting nice stuff cheaper is by buying it second-hand. See if there is a good second-hand photo shop in EDI (you'll know it's a good one when the photo nerds hang out there), go there, and look around.

For the beginning you might wanna get a zoom lense as it gives you more flexibility, close-up - wide-angle. Something in the range of 300mm - 100mm is nice. If you wanna go spotting at EDI for instance, ask the local spotters what they use. They'll be able to tell you whether a 300mm is not enough or too much.

Maybe here you get a feeling for what's out there ... http://www.sobotka.at/kamera.html

CU,
Nick
 
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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 12:53 am

Nick,

The clue was in the sentence: I am thinking of getting the 300D  Wink/being sarcastic

Sebastian,

For a Canon EOS 300D a good starter lens would be the 75-300mm USM III lens. It produces decent enough pictures and won't cost you the earth. From there you can move on to bigger and/or more expensive lenses.

Cheers!

Rez
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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:11 am

I agree with Rez. Before I got a 100-400L I used the 75-300mm USM II, and it wasn't bad at all. For a beginning photographer it's perfectly fine to start with, and it'll give you very nice results.
Example: Canon 10D with 75-300mm USM II


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There are similar lenses by Sigma and Tamron (and others), but I have no experience with those (Always been a Canon man, since I started with my AE-1 Big grin)

I hope this helps...
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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:43 am

Thanks you guys for the quick responses! I will look into that one, and see what I can afford Big grin.

Sebastian
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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:44 am

I own the Tamron 75-300mm and I'm very happy with it. And only about 160 euros!!! A very good price!

Tamron 75-300 examples:


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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:45 am

I suggest a Canon 70-200mm F/4L... Very affordable, and very sharp. Plus its L Glass. I got mine from Adorama for around $579.00. Check my photos out if you want to see examples.

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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:32 am

If you can afford it, go for the 70-200 f4 L lens. You have not said how much you are thinking of spending. The lenses discussed on this forum range from 100 bucks to 1000's.

If not, the 75-300 is a great alternative. Also, if you end up buying a better lens later on, you will not have spent much money on the 75-300 and will still have a decent backup lens.

The difference with the cheaper lenses is that they are not as sharp at the extremes. For example, a 75-300 lens will give best results up to 200 or 250mm - above that the quality will fall off.

Another problem is that the quality reduces at the widest aperture.

So, a 75-300mm f5.6 zoom can really be thought of as a 100-250mm f8 zoom with the bonus of the other zoom and aperture settings at the expense of a bit of sharpness.

The higher aperture setting could always be compensated for by setting a higher ISO on the 300D.

Buy the best lens that YOU can afford now, after all you must be serious about your photography if you are going to spend the thick end of a thousand bucks on a 300D.

Also, look out for any deals where you can buy a camera and lens(es) together. For example, a 300D plus 28-80 and 75-300 seems to be pretty common.

Regards,
Craig.

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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:48 am

I use the Tamron 75-300mm lens, only cost me £100, and I feel that its adequate for my needs!

Do a search under my name for some examples.

Cheers,

Simon
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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:10 am

As many have mentioned, I would go for the 75-300mm at first. The lens is really cheap and you can just put it aside without having wasted a lot of money. Then, go for a nice, perhaps used, L lens. Thank god for the second hand market...
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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:16 am

The lens is really cheap and you can just put it aside without having wasted a lot of money.

Spend the extra money and buy the 70-200mm F/4L.
 
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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:30 am

Also, look out for any deals where you can buy a camera and lens(es) together

I'd approach this with extreme caution - "kit" lenses tend to be produced to a very minimal spec, and designed to make the newcomer think he's getting a great deal. Even Nikon and Canon have produced some truly crap lenses for this very purpose.

There are some dealers who actually will sell a decent package, and quite often you can get a better price by buying lenses and camera together. But I would advice deciding what YOU want rather than letting the dealer offer you a seeming bargain.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Lens Suggestions For "new" Photographer

Wed Mar 17, 2004 8:52 am

If you are on a tight budget, try to find something like a used 75-300 as a temporary sollution. You can probably pick one up for about 100 euro. If you later decide you want something better, you can probably sell it for nearly as much as you paid for it.

Staffan

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