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Jumping The Gap...

Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:48 pm

Hi folks...

I don't post here that much, but I think this is the correct place for some advice...

I decided to finally jump the gap and wander into the digital realm, and as I already use Canon products, my brand choice is rather obvious.

That being said, I'm planning to buy a DSLR until year's end and due budget constrains will probably get an used body. Here I have two choices, one would be a D60 the other a 10D. What is the real advantage of the 10D comparing to the D60? I understand that MPs are the same on both... Does the D60 have some glitches? Gizmos inside? How much is the average cost of an used D60 where you live? And a 10D?

On the other hand, I'm planning to buy some quality glass too, the 70-200L 2.8 would be nice... but with or without IS? I already heard many different stories that non-IS has even better optics than the IS version..

I prefer to put more money on the lense(s) than on the camera body anyway.

Thanks for your comments...

Renato
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RE: Jumping The Gap...

Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:57 pm

Biggest differences are that the 10D has much better AF, slightly better metering and a number of other minor tweaks in various aspects of the camera. Image quality is improved at high ISO, but on the whole, a 100 ISO pic from a D60 is indistinguishable from that from a 10D.

Until recently, I had both, and considered them (apart from AF) pretty much interchangeable.

Here, a 10D is worth roughly double a D60 used.

But partly this is due to simple age. Canon tests the shutter used to 30K exposures. Many D60s on the market will have reached or exceeded this. This does not mean that the shutter will fail over 30K - and indeed, many D30/D60s have gone well beyond this with no trouble at all. However, all else being equal, it stands to reason that a 1 year old 10D will have a longer life than a 1 year old D60.

I think it depends whether you would be tempted by a new 10D replacement model in say, 12 months time? If so, a D60 would be a sensible interim purchase. If you're looking for a longer life, perhaps the 10D is a safer bet.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Jumping The Gap...

Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:15 am

it stands to reason that a 1 year old 10D will have a longer life than a 1 year old D60

Huh??? Why? They're both tested to 30K aren't they, so if they're both one year old there's no reason why the D60 should have been used more than the 10D.

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RE: Jumping The Gap...

Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:42 am

it stands to reason that a 1 year old 10D will have a longer life than a 1 year old D60

Sorry - mistyped - clearly that should be a TWO year old D60!

These screeners ... eagle eyed buggers aren't they?  Smile

Cheers,

Colin

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RE: Jumping The Gap...

Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:50 am

Nah Colin, just making sure you don't devalue my one year old D60 by any more than needs be! Big grin

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RE: Jumping The Gap...

Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:41 am

Well I've reached nearly 30K exposure with my D60... I'm just curious. Do you know what a shutter replacement will cost (it is possible, isn't is?)

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RE: Jumping The Gap...

Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:54 am

Tobi,

I really doubt the shutter on the D60 will ever give. Although canon test it till 30,000 it will probably keep on going way over 100,000 if you treat the camera good! I know people with D30's that have taken over 50,000 with no problems!

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RE: Jumping The Gap...

Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:08 am

Tobi: when I bought my D30 the shutter had just been changed after going through some 30 000 exposures, the seller said that he payed around 2500 SEK (around €275) for the change, which included a recalibration of the camera and the normal service done for it, this was done at a Canon repairshop in London I believe  Smile
 
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RE: Jumping The Gap...

Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:07 am

Thanks Colin...

This was a informative post...
Indeed I was planning to get the D60 as an entry level into digital, and later (not much later) upgrading to a better DSLR, maybe even an 1D MkII..

On a side note, DSLR are still outrageously expensive here...the prices are in us$ with current exchange rates:

EOS 1-Ds 15900,-
EOS 10-D 3200,-
EOS D-60 4500.-

This prices are on regular shops, you can get better prices on the "black-market"

As I mentioned before, my immediate priority is getting a 70-200 2.8.

Cheers

Renato

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