bigphilnyc
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Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:48 pm

I'm standing under an approach at LGA today and see a lineup of 3 or four planes at a time, and can get them all in frame. But I want to optimize the quality that I can get from my shots.

With a Canon 10D and a 100-400mm L series, what settings should I use so I can get the best focused and msot crisp shot for 3 or four objects that are miles apart from one another?

Any advice?

-Phil


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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:59 pm

Amateur suggestion, so read with caution.  Wink/being sarcastic

You would definately want a great depth of field. To get this, I suggest you shoot in AP mode (Aperture Priority), with a higher setting at something like f8 or so. Although that would yeild a slower shutterspeed, the IS on the 100-400 would probably help a lot with that.

I still have to read up on the focusing systems, so I'll let someone else take it from here.
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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:36 pm

He is not far off Phil. What I would try is setting the lens in mode II IS, set it in Av mode starting at f8 (minimum) and bracket your shots up as high as you can go. I would imagine at around f16 or f22 your going to start struggling a little with the shutter speed, IS or not, but as long as the planes are coming straight on, you will probably not notice the speed much.

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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:39 pm

How can I adjust these setting on my Olympus C-740, please?

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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:42 pm

Adel,
All of that info and a lot more is in the Olympus manual. You just put it in Aperature Priority mode, and take successive pictures, changing the aperature to a higher number each time. The problem you will have is the camera does not track moving objects as well as Phil's, so expect some blur.

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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:44 pm

Hah! This thread rocks.

Jeff: Phil's telling me (and will probably tell you, too) that at f8, he's getting shutter speeds around 1 full second. That baffles me right there, as today was a beautiful clear day, plenty of light. However, he could try A-DEP and Landscape modes on for size. (Sounding familiar, Phil?  Smile)

Adel: You're in luck. I'm a C740 user as well. The manual modes on the camera are basically a watered down version of what you get on a DSLR. In a nutshell, your best bet is to use the Landscape mode. When fiddling with the aperture on this camera, especially bringing it way down to f8, the shutter speeds will screw you over REAL bad. Email me if you have any more questions.
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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:45 pm

I see. Thank you for the quick response Jeff.  Big grin

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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:47 pm

Futterman: I will be emailing you soon.  Smile hehehe

Thank you big time too!
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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:01 pm

I don't know if it's sucha a good idea with Summer coming here. You might get heat haze up the a$$ unless it's a fairly decent day.

Other than that, I don't know why the aperture set at F8 would give you a 1sec exposure time. On my Sony 707, it gives me a speed of about 1/200 or higher in some cases.

I guess if you have a tripod, you can hold out the 1 second exposure, but without a tripod you're going to have to hold your breath and pray to whoever you can pray to.
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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:28 pm

Futt,
I am not sure why Phil is getting 1 second at f8.
This shot was f8 @ 1/400 with center weighted average meetering.


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Shot with a 10d and the 100-400 L IS. Same as Phil.
There was good light? Bright and sunny? Check the meetering modes..

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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:44 pm

Ok, I exagerrated with BuckFutt a little.

The other day I took a shot indoors with my Sigma 24-70mm at f8 and it took several seconds for the picture to be taken. I'm not sure exactly what the shutter speed was, but the picture process after one application of the button took several seconds, and the returned image was streaked. I assumed I'd get a similar result outdoors with the L series and so forth. I was on the Tv setting, though.

I'm still learning. *sigh* lol
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RE: Approach Lineup Shots

Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:55 pm

Yeah, that makes ALL the difference. Your problem indoors, though, seems to be human error. If you were shooting in Tv, and had a seemingly long shutter speed, it was set that way manually. Unless you mean Av...Aperture Priority.

Tv is shutter, Av is aperture.

It's darker inside than it is outside (in this case, I'm assuming). The amount of light makes all the difference, so f8 with the 100-400 outdoors won't give you a sucky shutter speed. Jeff gave solid proof as well.

Oh, and Jeff. It's 'metering'... Smokin cool

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