jakbar
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Advice On Rejected Photo

Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:16 pm

First, let me make clear up front...I have already appealed this rejected photo because I really like it, and that's what the appeal process is for. What I wanted to do is solicit some input about this photo because I (obviously) disagree with the fact that it should have been rejected in the first instance. Here's the photo:

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=APPEAL_040304-iad-ua01.jpg&appealed=yes

It was rejected for badmotiv. I am upset because lately I have seen some really weird pictures get accepted (including a picture of a bird with a plane in the background), but yet my picture is rejected when I try to do something a little different. I was really excited about this photo when I saw it on my computer screen for the first time.

Please let me know your comments. Thanks...

Josh
 
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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:19 pm

Very nice shot you got there! I find two things disturbing though:
1) The little leaf and part of the branch that is covering part of the nose of the aircraft.
2) The aircraft is quite far away.

Other than that, nice going, hope the appeal comes through!  Big thumbs up

Sebastian
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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:01 am

Nice concept, but it is too far for me as well. BADMOTIVE is probably right. The branch kills it for me also. It might have been more pleasing if the light was better, and if there were a little less tree/shrub in the frame.

Jeff
 
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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:13 am

Looks good Josh. Looks like the light was a lot better for you, than it was for me on the 772 shot. Mine came out pretty dark.  Sad Here is the best of the collection from Saturday, with what you were trying to do:
http://www.image-hosting.us/admin/private/iad040304g-wwbd1.jpg


Good luck on the appeal.
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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:19 am

the leaf in front of the aircraft nose disturb me.
 
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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:28 am

If the shrubs were also in focus, and the nsoe wasn't blocked, I'd say it would have a chance.
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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:19 am

Yep, the branch'll probably piss Johan off as well. Is that the only shot with cherry blossoms you got? Get on AIM some time, I might be able to swing something.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Phil: I think by having the blossoms in focus as well, you lose the emphasis on the plane. Sorry, but no matter what he does, only I can get 'BadFutt'.  Big grin

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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:35 am

Futt -

The weather was less than cooperative that day, so that was actually the only shot I could get with the sun hitting the plane at exactly the right moment. Look at Burke's link to the BMI A332 above and you'll see what I'm talking about.

And thank you for posting the link to that older picture...I was looking for that as an example of why I did not want the cherry blossoms in focus. I think it looks better that way, but we're all allowed to disagree. I also wanted to see it because I remembered that the plane in that picture was also at a considerable distance away from the camera (as in my picture).

And as for the branch...if that's the only reason why my pic got rejected, then so be it. It doesn't bother me, and I tried to make the best of the poor weather. And besides...my wife (the non-aviation-enthusiast) likes the picture enough to put it on her computer background...and that's enough for me! Big grin

[Edited 2004-04-07 18:41:17]
 
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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:12 pm

Thanks futt that's the picture I was thinking of when i read this thread. I hadn't seen that one in years. The thing with Josh's pic is, the flowers don't envelop the plane all around, just on the edges, and yes truth is a blue sky was needed there. If you could crop it a little it might look better, I personally think the whitish cloud above the airplane, even more than the branch on the nose, detracts from the image.

That JAS 777 shot is just beauty of orgasmic proportions man.
 
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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:24 pm

i am 100% sure that the JAS pic above wouldnt be accepted by today standards .... , though it is nice ...

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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:59 pm

Ok so it got rejected. I think it will get rejected at the appeal process also.
Personally I really like the shot, but I feel that it isn't the kind of shot that A.net is looking for at this present time.

I have loads of images that I feel are great, I would not upload them here, as sadly they wouldn't get a look in on A.net because they are to 'arty'

I think the most important thing to remember is that you think the shot is really nice and that should be why you take photos.

If you just go out to shoot for viewing figures on A.net then I'd sell the gear.
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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:34 pm

Something artistic is what's missing around here Josh.

Of course I'm talking about a small and realistic proportion. The standard side profile lamppost straight, hotel roof straight is just plane boring.

I like your ideas and keep having these ideas because that's what will make you a better photographer. The abilities to look at things from different perspectives. Unfortunately it was rejected, maybe in the past it would have passed.


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I wonder if the above would have been accepted by todays standards. Shame if it wasn't because I was lucky to make some good money from this one.


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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:15 pm

Josh,

I really like the shot but it is the leaf over the aircraft that is the major negative point and if the a/c was central it would have a better impact.

Personally I love to see something different especially from the boring same old shots location, Colin's shot above illustrates that well and yes I would say we would accept it today.

Here's a similar different type of style shot accepted the other day

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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:22 pm

Josh,

I like the shot very much. I think the weather really is a factor here. UAL and the grey sky happen to be similar colors, so the plane is dominated by the color of the trees.

As you know, I tried the same shot several times, and none of mine came out as well as this "badmotiv" example.

Keep shooting!

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RE: Advice On Rejected Photo

Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:51 pm

I also say that the leaf on the nose is a probable BADMOTIV fact and also it looks a little bit too far away for me.

Nice shot anyways, good luck with the appeal and if you don't get it accepted try it again another with better weather!

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