atco
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Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:07 pm

I'm a bit lost why these are badmotive???

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=090404_voydh8c_cghqz_yz.jpg

And

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=090404_jgomd83_cfklz_yz.jpg

Badmotiv described as:
The photos were of low esthetic qualities - bad angle, included
window reflections (for shots taken through glass such as terminal windows),
pictured just a part of an aircraft (with no motivation, like a special
sticker, damage etc., for doing so), out of focus, distracting or
obstructing objects in the foreground or similar (this is especially true
for gate shots which are very difficult to get accepted due to their common
nature and the large amount of ancilliary equipment which usually surrounds
the aircraft) or did not picture an aircraft or anything sufficiently
related to aviation at all. Finally, you might read this because your camera
displays the date in the lower right corner of the image. If so, please
disable that feature in the future.

If they have problems I would like to fix them and re-upload, at the moment though I don't get the problem from the rejection reason.

Thank you in advance

Garry
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vafi88
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:35 pm

For the first one, it could be the fact that there's a tiny part of the fence sticking out, but that didn't even catch my attention, I guess your picture has to be FLAWLESS nowadays.

The second pic, on the other hand, is awesome, like the first pic, and it has no fence, which would lead me to believe the screener looked at all the crud behind it which doesn't even bother me, or distract me from your main point.

Lovely photos, and the quality is great, my thought is that they both should've gotten in just fine, but 'other' people might disagree.
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Ejazz
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:41 pm

Garry

I really don't know why for both. Beautiful light and quality.

Regards

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RayBolt
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:07 pm

I noticed that you have your name and 'airteamimages' in the top left corners. if i remember correctly, a.net doesn't allow this on the photos. i don't know if this would be the reason for rejection, but it's an idea.
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vafi88
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:19 pm

Raybolt - As far as I know, if you cannot see the watermark on the small image, then it's alright.
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JeffM
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:08 pm

...distracting or obstructing objects in the foreground/background or similar ...

My only guess.

 
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:56 pm

I think the screener had a headache maybe. Nice shots.
 
EGBB
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:48 pm

Garry,

I don't like to see fences in pictures but that's just me - you see pictures like this or much worse uploaded on Anet each day so I guess it can't be that?

As for the second I have no idea its perfect to me!

The Airteamimages logo well only adds a bit of extra class to the pictures  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:52 pm

Hi there,

They are both gorgeous pictures!  Smile

1st Shot:

I think it's superb, nothing says badmotive to me with this one.

2nd Shot:

Again, superb shot, but possibly the sign post in the bottom right corner is a little bit distracting.

Fantastic images none the less  Big thumbs up Just my thoughts.

Regards,

Justin  Smile
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Skymonster
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:42 pm

First shot - fence at bottom (OK for rare subjects but not OK for stuff we already have)

Second shot - not sure

Both shots - could be the watermark if its visible on the thumbnail, but seeing as I can't see the thumbnail right now I can't make a definitive judgement call on that aspect

Andy
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Granite
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:08 pm

Garry

No URL should be incorporated onto an image. I think this may have been the reason for rejection and wrong category selected.

Regards

Gary Watt

[Edited 2004-04-17 14:11:28]
 
Jkw777
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:12 pm

Gary (Granite),

This saves me starting a new topic really.  Laugh out loud

Are we allowed to insert a small logo as shown?

Regards,

Justin  Big thumbs up
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Skymonster
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:38 pm

Well spotted Gary! As the man implies, a watermark is OK (as long as it isn't noticable on the thumbnail) but it can't include a URL. Whilst this may seem pedantic, a watermark including "Garry Lewis - airteamimages" may be OK but "Garry Lewis - www.airteamimages.com" definitely isn't.

Andy
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atco
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:49 pm

Thanks all,

I guess if I brush out the URL, I can re-upload these then?

Regarding the fence on the Dash 8 shot, personally I don't feel it detracts from the shot, and to crop it out would give the image a letterbox look.
If you feel however it would be rejected again because of the fence, I'll re-crop before re-uploading.

Thanks

Garry
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Granite
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:38 pm

Hi all

The rules allow a copyright statement on your images ONLY if it is invisible on the thumbnail.

For a guide, all my stuff (except the older stuff) has a statement added. OK, it doesn't add much but it helped me screw hundreds of pounds out of the News of the World..........nicking gits that they are!

Garry, re-upload without the url and ensure that it is not visible on the thumbnail. The screeners would reject without hesitation if it is noticeable.

Cheers

Gary

[Edited 2004-04-17 15:42:21]
 
f4wso
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:43 pm

Cropping out the fence loses the runway which is key to the crosswind theme.
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LHSebi
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RE: Why Badmotive?

Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:33 am

It looks to me as though there may be some slight oversharpening. I can see jaggies in places, and they do distract slightly from the picture. I really like them, but if you sharpen a little less, I would like them even more  Big grin. Of course also as mentioned, the watermark/url issue.

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