DLKAPA
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So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 1:42 pm

Quick question, is there any way in Photoshop to soften up a picture after you have sharpened it? I have some pics that I sharpened way too much (now that I look at them), And I want to tone them down a little.

How do I go about doing that?

Any help would be appreciated, Thanks

Eric
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 1:44 pm

The best solution would be to start from scratch with the original camera files or scans.
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 1:46 pm

Yes, but there is one slight problem:

To save space on my computer and CF card, pictures have been axed.

Does that mean I'm screwed?

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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 1:50 pm

Send me the originals, I can be good at this kind of thing when photoshop works. (which it does now)
 
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 1:52 pm

Ryan, I appreciate it, but please teach me to fish, don't just give me some food.  Big grin

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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 2:00 pm

OK, first I need to know some details;
-image size
-photoshop version (7 is better)
-rejected image link

Then I can tell you whether it is salvagable.
 
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 2:13 pm

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=N676UAdeparting25.jpg

I think the size is somewhere around 1100x768, but I'm just too lazy right now to check. Besides, my dinner awaits.

Eric
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 2:16 pm

that one isn't as sharp as some of the others, for example

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=TED_N477UA_Rwy25Dep.jpg
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 2:40 pm

Eric, How did you manage to pixelate a 300D image? Check your camera, does it say canyon or crayon instead of Canon? Just kidding, actually I am guessing you are using the kit lens for this shot? If so you are going to have to choose your battles a bit better in terms of getting an uploadable shot. If you just have the kit lens, try getting some belly shots from straight underneath on approach to the 16s. Might want to avoid going out when you have that layer of cirrus we tend to get in the afternoon hours too.

Keep trying new things, you have to be artsy with that 18-55mm lens!
 
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 2:40 pm

Eric,

I don't think the problem is your pictures are too sharp...

What lens are you using, and how far away from the aircraft are you? I have a feeling it's something like 50mm and 2 miles away... the pictures seem to be heavily, heavily cropped (if not enlarged from 1:1) and have quite a bit of JPEG loss too. The atmosphere is killing the saturation and contrast as well, which leads me to believe you're too far away. Then again, you're in Denver...

Also, always keep the original. You never know when someone might want to give you a lot of money for a big print of something... 1024x768 doesn't blow up to 11x17 very well. Burn em on CD to save Hard Drive space, just don't loose the CDs.

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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 2:45 pm

I think a large part of this problem is that DLKAPA is not saving his original images.

I know hard drive space is vital, but I think it's just as important to always empty your memory card onto your hard drive, and then save the originals onto a CD and archive them by date.

You never know when you're going to need to go back and re-edit and original photo, or when you'll need the original version to re-edit for a print order or something. Or maybe a photo that you happened to not edit and post that you later would like ot try to add to the databse or do something with.

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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 3:24 pm





Artsy enough for ya, Tim? Big grin

Not Aviation related, but I gotta plug something!  Laugh out loud

I was about 300 yards from the planes shooting through a 50mm lens that came with the camera, I'm looking into longer lenses, but as Prom was just last week and Graduation and College are coming up, I am finding money to be very slow in coming.

Thanks for your help

Eric
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 5:20 pm

While it may be possible to smooth some jagginess here and there, it is not really possible to reverse the sharpening process. Sharpening involves altering the contrast of adjacent pixels - once this is done you will find it very difficult to restore those pixels to the original value.

As a general rule, all PS processes should be thought of as destructive - each modification irrecoverably alters or destroys information in the original.

As has been said, never ever delete originals! Its like keeping prints, but throwing away the negatives.

Cheers,

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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Tue May 04, 2004 11:29 pm

Eric,
Lesson learned Bub. Keep the originals, and pay attention to the lighting. What is that first "artsy" picture supposed to be?
 
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Wed May 05, 2004 5:46 am

The first "artsy" picture is a dock on Bingham lake down here in the Pinery.

when I get bored during late evening I drive around photographing sunsets.

Eric
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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Wed May 05, 2004 1:10 pm

Eric,
If your going to have a hazy sky...keep it to a minimum and don't make it the prominent part of your picture.


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RE: So My Picture Is Too Sharp.

Wed May 05, 2004 2:28 pm

Thanks alot for the help Jeff, Tim, and all you other guys. I really appreciate it.  Smile

Btw Jeff, you are really enjoying that 10D aren't you  Smokin cool

Eric
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