QantasA332
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New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 7:00 am

Hello everyone...

I'm considering a new, DSLR camera, and I'd like any suggestions/tips/tricks/etc. that you guys could provide. I don't need absolute top-of-the-line, but maybe something around the 300D...that is, I'm limited to something around AU$3000, including lenses, a little more if necessary. Currently, I shoot with an Olympus C750 which, though I plan to continue using for a while, I want to replace with something very good that will give me a lot of growing room. I have looked at Canon's website, and am wondering what the differences between the 10D and 300D are (other than price, of course). Also, there are a few different kits available - what are the differences and which do you guys recommend? What other lenses might I have to buy (zoom or other)? Any other necessary accesories?

Of course, I'd be happy to try something other than the above Canons, provided that they're about equivalent in all respects. However, most people seem to rave about those 10/300 Ds, so...

Yes, so any advice? All other hints are very welcome...

Thanks very, very much in advance!!
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 7:04 am

My 300D does the job. Had a small issue a couple days ago, but, I think it was more my fault that the camera's fault.

 
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 9:21 am

Alright, thanks for that! Any other tips/suggestions/help that might help me?

Cheers,
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 9:33 am

Would go for the 10D, i know alot of non aviation photographers who bought a 300d but then sold it/returned it because it was lacking in areas the 10D isnt!!!

10d=
Metal Body
Selectable ai servo in any mode incl av/s/m and p!
battery life is apparently slightly better than the 300d when both cams have grips attached!
The 300d has in camera setting for jpeg which are more styled towards P&S style images, 10D has very neutral settings!!!
The 10D has a much bigger RAW/Jpeg buffer! 3fps for 9frmaes against the 300D's 3fps for 4 frames!

On the other hand, if you are shooting RAW then these in cam setting dont matter a toss.

What ever bosy you get the key to getting good pics is good glass and good technique! If you can use the camera probably then it helps a lot more!!!

Oh 10D files need more processing than 300D files, this is a good thing i think, more control!!!

Chris

P.S. I have a 10D and an assortment of lenses! The 10D is the cats whiskers to me!!! Check out my pics to see!!!
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 10:20 am

Thanks so much for your advice, Chris! From the sound of it, the 10D would be a better choice... However, looking at the pricing again, I'm afraid the 10D itself would be pushing my budget, let alone the 10D with all sorts of necessary lenses. Am I correct in guessing that a 300D with whatever lenses I should get would be a better bet than a 10D without much more than one standard lens?

Again, thanks so much, and keep the advice coming!

Cheers,
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 10:43 am

The 300D with High Quality Lenses is a great combo. If you need the extra features, go for the 10D. Personally I have not wished I had the 10D, but, then again, I havent used the 10D. Check out my profile, click on my lenses and look at my photos. In the remarks, I have the lens I used to take the photo.



 
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 11:07 am

Wow, very nice photos Chad! I suppose getting the 300D with some good lenses would be the best idea for me. As a base, though, which would I buy between the "300D kit" and the "300D enthusiast kit." What exactly is the difference? I understand that the latter includes another lens, but is that lens good and what exactly is it used for? Sorry to be asking such stupid questions, but I'm quite a novice. Also, what exactly do the mm figures of lenses mean, and how does one 'interpret' them? What sorts of lenses should I look at getting? I'm in serious need of "Lenses 101"... Embarrassment

Again, thanks very much for the assistance. Keep it coming!

Cheers,
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 12:34 pm

All of my air to air stuff was taken with the 18-55mm EF-S. I think the lens is great! I would buy the combo with that lens ONLY. Then go for some HQ 'L' glass.

Chad
 
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 3:48 pm

I have the 300D, and like it very much. Spend the money on good lenses. The 10D is a very nice body, but if you are new to SLR photography, you may find the additional post processing intimidating. It is also pretty heavy if you are used to a small digital. I would reccomend spending some time in a camera store trying both on for size. Some people seem to get caught up in how "professional" the camera looks, but it's the pictures it takes that counts. The amount of 300D pictures on this site show that the camera is more than adaquate.

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 4:38 pm

Qantas-

I own a 300D and am extremely happy with it. I too was undecided on the 10D or the 300D, and decided to buy a 300D just to try it out. I fully intended to sell it (probably on E-Bay) after a month or two and buy a 10D. That was my plan from the beginning.

After shooting around 5,000 images with my 300D, the only way I'm getting rid of it now is if someone prys it out of my cold dead fingers! I love it! It does everything I need it to do and then some. I've had it for almost four months, and am still learning cool things about it. It's an amazing camera - especially for the money.

My advice to you - try the 300D. If you don't like it, you can usually get at least your investment back by selling it on E-Bay. For example - I wanted to get into DSLR photography, and bought a Kodak DCS-315 on E-Bay for $275. I tried it - it sucked (it was only 1.5 megapixels, and was extremely old), so I put it back on E-Bay. It wound up selling for $450!

Buy the 300D, and save that extra $500 for lenses. You can have a 300D AND the 75-300 IS USM (Image Stabilized!!!) for the price of a 10D kit!

Plus, my friends at the Canon store have told me that the 10D is about to be replaced by something new. Despite it's imminent "discontinued" status, they simply won't budge on that $1500 pricetag on the 10D. Even if they did, I'm keeping my 300D. When I want to spend another grand, I'll start looking for some L glass!  Big thumbs up

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 4:51 pm

I'm also a 300D shooter, with a relatively "cheap" lens ( payed around $200 only for a 70-300mm ) - but it still produces great results!

I think the 300D should be fine for you, I never missed any of the 10D features on my 300D.

Also, I would go for the body + Canon 18-55mm combo! The lens is amazing!

Canon EOS 300D + Tamron 70-300mm:

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 5:41 pm

Have you ever considered a Nikon D70?
 
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 6:23 pm

Or a D100 which has a metal body?
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Sun May 16, 2004 7:28 pm

@Maiznblu: thanks so much for all of your tips, and I'll definitely look into that 18-55mm lens! Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the one that comes with the body in the "300D kit", at least for Canon Australia, right?... Again, thanks so much!

@Wannabe: thanks so much for your tips, and I'll definitely make my way into a camera shop to check them out firsthand. And, funds permitting, of course  Laugh out loud, I'll try to get some good lenses as well! Again, this is where I ask, What lenses would you say would be good to have, about how much are they, and where can I get them? Thanks again!

@Andrewuber: thanks so much for the advice. The 300D is starting to seem like the camera to get... So as I said, y question to you now is regarding lenses; what sorts of lenses should I get for aviation photography, how many different ones are really necessary, and how much would all this cost? Again, I'm limited to about AU$3500-4000 (at the very, very most) - that is, US$2400-2750 - and would like very good lenses, but obviously ones that won't bankrupt me. The "300D kit" (the thing that comes with the body and 18-55mm lens) costs around AU$2000, so that leaves around AU$1500 (US$1000) - as I said, a bit more if necessary - for lenses. For that, what could/should I get? Again, I want something very good, and that I could grow into a bit. Thanks so, so much for your help!!

@INNflight: I know I keep saying this, but you too: thanks so much for your help! I suppose my questions above are addressed to you - to everyone, really - as well. So, any tips in terms of lenses?

@MAS_A330: I must admit that I have never heard of the D70...do you think it stands up to, or is better than, the 300D? If so, why?

Well I can't say it enough, thanks so much for all the assistance, everyone! More help of any sort is very welcome! Now, another question: is it worth getting a battery grip (i'm guessing it is) and if so, how much are they, about?

Aha, one more thing (sorry to be going on so long!): where do you recommend I buy it (and its lenses) when I do? Amazon.com seems to have some pretty good prices, but I'd rather buy from somewhere within Australia to avoid any outrageous shipping/duty charges...

Alright, I'll shut up. Again, thank you very much for the help!

Cheers,
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Mon May 17, 2004 8:44 am

300D is a good choice for your budget...you can always spend the extra money saved over the 10D on quality lenses. The Nikon D70 does offer more features but the body alone cost $1000US.
 
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Mon May 17, 2004 9:48 am

If you get a Canon DSLR then you might want to consider buying a Sigma lens. All of my pictures are taken with the Sigma 70-200mm f2.8. I love the lens. I have a small budget so it was cheaper than going with the Canon f2.8 glass. I decided against the Canon 70-200 f4 because the lens is also used by my parents to take pictures of my baseball games which can require the f2.8 under really low light conditions. However, I know Chad gets some great results from his Canon 70-200 f4.

Basically, the Sigma gives great results for the money. Hope this helps.

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Mon May 17, 2004 10:39 am

Thanks for that, Hodges! I'll definitely keep Sigma in mind, but first I kind of need to know what sorts of lenses I actually should have/want, before considering manufacturers. So, in that light, what types of lenses do you recommend, and how many are really necessary to cover a good range of shooting 'conditions,' if you like?

Keep the help coming, and thanks so much!

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Mon May 17, 2004 1:58 pm

Qantas-

I bought my 300D as a kit, so I got the 18-55 lens. It does a great job up close, and for aviation photography, it's perfect. You don't really need Image Stabilizing for up-close shots, as anything that close is usually parked. I've had quite a few great cockpit shots with the 18-55 lens too, it is very sharp, the colors are good, and it's easy to carry around.

My other lens is the 75-300 USM IS. I chose this lens so I could shoot aircraft on approach or departure, and the Image Stabilizing is perfect for that. I can zoom all the way out to 300mm, even at low light, and still get good results. The photos are sharp and clear. The 75-300 range gives you great flexibility on shooting an aircraft on approach - you can zoom in when they're on final, and usually zoom back and depending on your position, 75mm will fill the frame with the aircraft just about every time. I paid $499 for this lens, and it was worth every penny. My only complaint about the lens - the focus can be a bit slow, and if you're not careful, it will focus all the way out to infinity before you can stop it. I've missed a couple of nice shots because of this, but I've learned to keep it pointed at the horizon until there is enough aircraft in the frame to get a good focus.

You should really go see an IS lens for yourself, it's so cool to zoom all the way in and see the image bouncing around as your hands shake, press the shutter button halfway, and everything stops moving completely. It's awesome!

Also remember the 1.6 mutliplier for the Canon 300D!!! That means if you are shooting at 300mm, you're actually getting the equivelant of a 480mm lens!

Here's an example of my 18-55 lens (in 1600 resolution!):

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I'd also reccommend the battery grip. I've used it since day one, and can't imagine life without it. I've never, EVER seen a low battery warning with my 300D, and I've gone on three day trips filling up two 256mb cards!

And for the love of God, stay away from NIKON!!!  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Mon May 17, 2004 2:27 pm

QantasA332 -

Before you decide on going Canon or Nikon or Minolta or whatever, do yourself a favour, go to a camera shop, and test the cameras out. You shouldnt only decide on a camera based on its technical features, but also which one YOU personally like - IE which feels better to you. Nobody can tell you this, only you yourself can decide. At your age of 13-15, the price of a DSLR is really a huge investment. I urge you to take into all factors into consideration, maybe draw up a rating table which you can decide on your choice of camera. Some factors you might want to take into account:

- Technical competence of the camera (Technical features)
- Variety / range of lens available
- Battery life (How many frames you can shoot on a full battery charge)
- Speed of camera (if speed is important to you)
- Price (of course)
- Warranty / Reliability / Repair costs(How many years warranty? Would the camera break down often? How much would the shutter change cost?)
- Customer service (How easy/difficult is it to get it repaired or upgraded)
- Build (How good does it feel in your hand and when you photograph)
- Ease of use (How easy is it to understand and use the camera)
- Resale value (if you are thinking of selling it in the future)
- Existing equipment (If you have an existing SLR lens or camera, you might be biased towards using the same brand)

All said, I strongly recommend prior to purchasing, to ask the dealer or rent the same model for a day or two, and really try it out. You dont want any regrets purchasing the wrong model - as with cars, the re-sale drops once you take it out of the store).

With this in mind, I do hope you find a good camera for yourself, and be satisfied with it, as with a lot of other photographers out there. I bought my DSLR after a 1 week trial use of it, and I never regretted it.

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Mon May 17, 2004 3:08 pm

With your budget i'd go for the 300D plus a 75-300IS.
The 300D is an excellent choice and with the 75-300 you will be able to get good results with practice and working within the limits of the lens.
Buying in oz?
If so i'd definietly buy from one of the EB dealers.You wll save a fortune compared to retail.
Have fun with the decisions.
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Mon May 17, 2004 8:34 pm

Thanks for the continual help, everyone. I'll reply in more depth tommorrow, as it's off to bed for me at the moment...

Cheers,
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Tue May 18, 2004 7:16 am

@Andrewuber: Again, thanks so much for the help!! I think the 75-300 USM IS is on my must-get list...it looks great! As for the multiplier, there are two different ones on the Canon AU site, "Extender EF 2x II" and "Extender EF 1.4x II," and both are the same price. Which do you recommend? And how much (approx.) do battery grips cost? Also, do you have an exact product number for it? (I couldn't find it on the Canon AU site...) Very nice photos by the way!

@Tsentsan: thanks so much for the advice! I'll definitely get to a camera shop to try them all out. And very good points to keep in mind, I'll definitely keep them all in mind when trying the cameras out! Thanks again!

@Dehowie: yep, the 75-300 IS sounds like a good bet! Any other lenses or accesories that you think I might need? Oh and by EB, you mean Ebay, correct? Is it safe to get something like a camera from Ebay? Would it be in original packaging and everything? How about Amazon and their sub-shops...they seem to have good prices, but are they okay to buy from? Thanks so much for the help mate!

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Tue May 18, 2004 8:09 am

"I must admit that I have never heard of the D70...do you think it stands up to, or is better than, the 300D? If so, why?"

The Nikon D70 is the Nikon's budget D-SLR.
Its a 6.1 Megapixel camera and in my opinion is better than the 300D(Fire Away boys!!)
I have played with both Cameras and the D70 Felt better, but thats gonna be your call. (The D70's images looks better too, but the 300D boys won't admit it)
Theres a D70 Vs. 300D review
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond70/page20.asp
As Tsentsan said, go to a Large Camera store and play with the cameras, try stuff out, take pictures. You have to get a feel for what you like and what fits you.
Canon and Nikon and other D-SLRs will give you stellar results, its all up to what you like.

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Tue May 18, 2004 8:34 am

I feel you will be much happier with a Canon camera. The lenses are unsurpassed as far as quality goes. The glass will outlast the camera by many years.

 
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Tue May 18, 2004 9:52 am

Well, I'm kinda torn now. D70 or 300D? Overall, it seems like there is more resounding support for the latter, so I'm leaning towards that. However, as you guys recommended, I'll definitely try both out before making a final decision. Despite that, I have searched around for prices for the 300D. The following is how much it would cost all from Amazon - much less than I thought it would, actually...

-US$900: Canon 300D kit (comes w/18-55mm lens)
-US$430: Canon 75-300mm F/4.0-5.6 IS USM lens
-US$105: Canon battery grip for 300D
-US$45: extra battery pack
Total: US$1480 (AU$2,170)

So, does that sound about right? Is there somewhere where I could maybe get even cheaper prices on all that stuff? Am I forgetting something, like a battery charger (or does it come with one, or does the camera just have an AC-out to charge, or...?) or case? Any particular cases that you recommend? Do I really need that extra battery pack? I'm thinking that getting it from Amazon would be okay, because I could just have it sent to a friend in the US, and pick it up when I go over there to visit in September...

Thanks so much, and keep the help coming!  Big thumbs up

Cheers,
QantasA332

Edit: oh, I forgot the extender lens. Could you maybe give me an exact product number or name of the one I should get, because I had a hard time finding it online. And, should I get some sort of UV filter, or other lens that I didn't mention? Thanks again...

[Edited 2004-05-18 02:55:05]
 
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Tue May 18, 2004 10:15 am

QantasA332,

The Canon extender range from about 280 USD for both the 1.4x and 2x extenders at BH Photo. I'm not sure how much that is in Australia though.
A UV filter would be useful in the most part to protect the surface of the lens. They cost around $30 or so for a cheap 67mm filter here.
What size CF card do you have for your C750? You might want to consider getting more memory to accommodate the larger file sizes form whatever DSLR, Nikon or Canon, you get. I find that 512MB is enough for me since there isn't a lot of traffic near where I live. But buying more memory can really put a dent in your budget so see if it is really necessary. Hope this helps.

Regards,

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Tue May 18, 2004 11:11 am

Qantas A332-

If you're going to buy from the US, recommend you get from B&H, and if you're only going to the US around September, why dont you just wait for the price to freefall a little more before spending.

Also, consider the price of the CF card. You might need 2x 512mb cards considering some of the SYD traffic. Here, I would recommend the SANDISK ULTRA II or a LEXAR WA card. I think either is retailing around $150 USD each.

Most people on this forum use Canon. There's even an advert on Singapore with Canon proclaiming "70% of DSLR users use Canon". Seeing you live in Sydney (and probably spot with the Sydney guys) you might want to think about this thing called .. exchangability. The Sydney guys predominatly use Canon (except for Sam Chui and Grahame Hutchison I think). With using Canon, you can effectively borrow people's lens to do special types of shots etc etc, and you can share what you have with others, giving you lots of flexibility. For eg, you would be able to easily borrow a 17-40L for a ramp shoot or something.

Having used both a Canon (10D, D60) system and a Nikon (D100, D2H) system, I have noticed that the Canon system gives warmer colours. It didnt perform as good during an "shady" shoot though. On the Nikon system, I think more post-processing is required than on a Canon - this was purposely built into the Nikon system so that photographers would perform post-processing on that images. Coming back to the CF cards, the D70 has extremely fast writing capabilities when coupled with the SANDISK Ultra or the Lexar WA card.

As mentioned, find something that fits you, not something that fits other people. If you think a Panasonic Lumix is the way to go, so be it - you're the shooter, not us. But take a good long think about it, cos its a heck alot of money involved.

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Tue May 18, 2004 2:24 pm

@Hodges: okay, I'll check those extenders out. They basically just multiply the zoom by whatever factor, right? Would you say I should definitely get one, or are they not really necessary...(i.e. if I were just out shooting, would I really use it, or just rely on the zoom of the lens I use...). I currently have one 512mb card and one 256mb card for my C-750, which have been enough for now. I might get another 512mb, I'll see... Thanks so much, again!!

@Tsentsan: First of all, yes, I will buy the stuff closer to September to see if the price drops at all. As I said above, I have one Sandisk (I think) 512mb card and one 256mb...it has been okay so far (even shooting w/SHQ), but I think I might get another 512mb... Exchangeability is another very good point to keep in mind, thanks for that!

Now, about UV filters. I had one on my C-750, and it caused a lot of grain. I assume that that was just because of me getting a bad-quality filter, so could anyone point me towards an exact one that works well (excellently, rather!) w/the 300D? Just very good quality, and no problems like I had before...

As for where to buy:
I think for price sake I'll buy from somewhere in the US (and, like I said, have it shipped to somewhere within the US). Dehowie, if you could give me the name of that other place you mentioned, that'd be great, as I'm happy to get suggestions of Aussie companies that might have relatively cheap prices. The prices seem pretty comparable between Amazon and B & H, but you guys recommend the latter, right?

Cheers,
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Tue May 18, 2004 2:29 pm

I would go to a local store and try both cameras out before you buy!!!

Try both, the Nikon D70 and the Canon 300D - then you will know which one you like better!

regards, Florian
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Tue May 18, 2004 2:34 pm

Something else to look out for.

For digital cameras (at least for Nikon ones), there isnt any international warranty. Not sure about Canon, but think it also applies. There was a thread about this some time ago, search for it and it might be useful.

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Wed May 19, 2004 1:34 am

Qantas,

With whatever lens you buy you might want to try the lens out first before you buy an extender. Then decide whether you need an extender or not. I'm not sure how much zoom is needed for shooting where you go most often (Sydney isn't it?). But I'm sure some of the guys who shoot there frequently can tell you what size lens is sufficient.
Also keep in mind that depending on what lens you get, some extenders will not permit the use of autofocus. I believe the Canon 70-200mm f2.8 lenses can take the 1.4x and 2x extenders and still maintain autofocus. The Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 lenses can do that as well. However as the lenses largest aperture gets smaller then the chance of a loss of autofocus becomes greater. For example the Canon 70-200mm f4 can only take a 1.4x extender and maintain autofocus while it requires manual focus when coupled with a 2x extender. I'm pretty sure that's how it works. I'm glad to help.

Regards,

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Wed May 19, 2004 8:14 am

Allright everyone, thanks so much for the advice and help. I think what I have to do is just get myself to a camera store to try stuff out, and speak to some of the YSSY guys to see what they think. Whatever camera I do decide on, you seem to think I should order from B & H, so I think I'll try them... Again, thanks so, so much for the help, and I'll be sure to let you guys know when and what I get!

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Thu May 20, 2004 7:12 am

Sorry to bump this back up, but two more things:

1). I think I asked this before, but do you guys think a UV or clear filter of some kind is necessary? Will it help but not detract from the quality, as did my last UV filter for my C750?

2). If the answer to the above questions is yes: any particular models/brands that you recommend for use with the 300D? I'd assume just get a Canon one, but could you point me towards any particular models (product number or name, please) that, as I said, won't add grain and ruin the quality of the pictures as they did on my C750?

Again, thanks so much, and sorry to be dragging it out so much...

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Thu May 20, 2004 7:28 am

UV/skylight filter is a necessity. Use it to protect your lens. I go as cheaply as possible, if it scratches or breaks, I just buy a new one.

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Fri May 21, 2004 6:45 am

Okay, thanks.....but with a cheaper filter, wouldn't I run into the same problem I had, with it actually detracting from the quality and adding grain, etc.? Again, can anyone recommend a particular filter that might be good? As I said, I'd assume just get a Canon one (there are UV/Haze filters which seem good), but can anyone recommend any that are of excellent quality (but obviously not hugely expensive)? Thanks again!

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Fri May 21, 2004 7:10 am

Hoya HMC and B+W are good filters.

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Fri May 21, 2004 7:13 am

Tiffen offers excellent filters at a decent price.
 
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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Fri May 21, 2004 8:22 am

Okay, I checked those filters out at B & H but still don't know which I should get (sorry, this is probably getting annoying for you guys). If I'm not mistaken, the 300D takes 58mm, but within that size there are still heaps to chose from. Firstly, there are different strength filters - do I want the highest strength possible, the lowest, or what? There's Multi-Resistant Coating on some, some are 'slim', some are 'extra wide', etc...what exactly should I get? The B+Ws range from US$20 to US$80...where in that range would you say I should get a filter from? Hoya HMC and Tiffen are pretty much the same deal (though the latter is, as you said Maiznblu, a bit less expensive) with heaps of different types and options, so...any suggestions?

I'm sorry to be such a nuisance in asking so many questions and dragging this thread on forever, but I really appreciate the help!!

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RE: New Camera Help, Please...

Fri May 21, 2004 2:58 pm

I use normal UV's and skylight 1A, they are pretty much clear, the 1a will give the image a little warmer look (hardly noticable) and the UV reduces blue haze. Again, the effect isn't very big and it would hardly be noticable on a digital, but they'll still protect your lens.

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