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How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Wed May 26, 2004 2:41 am


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You are flying a private plane over the field, do you just shoot through the window, or open the door? Or open the window? Seems to me that shooting through the window would be hard because the wing over you would shield the sun and also the angle of Cessna windows is not like a commercial jet's. In a commercial jet you cant shoot something almost directly under you.

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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Wed May 26, 2004 2:51 am

Having the wing shield the sun would be a good thing. And it is not hard to roll a few degrees to allow a decent angle out the window while maintaining course. Timing the shot would be the hard part I would imagine.
 
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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Wed May 26, 2004 3:03 am

How is a small-prop plane for vibration? do you NEED a lens with image stabilizer shooting from a plane like this? From what I remember of my only prop plane ride 20 years ago it wasn't as smooth as a jetliner. and even a smooth jetliner in wind can be hard to get a clean window view from.

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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Wed May 26, 2004 3:08 am

Most, if not all Cessna's you can open the window on the right side. It swings up out of the way and is held open by the slipstream. If I recall correctly this is discussed in the owners manual.

IS would be nice but it mandatory. Keep the shutter speed up and have steady hands. Probably most important is communication with your pilot and timing.
 
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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Wed May 26, 2004 3:31 am

"..Keep the shutter speed up and have steady hands.."

that, and a real good neck strap!
 
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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Wed May 26, 2004 8:09 pm

Also, don't go thinking that overflying major airports is the norm. Aside from LAX, the only other airport I know of where ATC will take you right over top (or darn near over the top) of the airfield is Orlando Int'l. This is because all the runways at these locations are parallel and overflights can transit over the field perpendicular to the runways with no adverse effect on ops below them. This was one of the best parts of flying around the Orlando area, everytime you wanted to transit the MCO class B airspace, they would turn you directly to the airport and instruct you to over fly the center of the field, typically 2000' or better. I never had any problems complying with that request.  Big grin If only I wasn't a poor college student and had a good camera then!
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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Thu May 27, 2004 12:02 am

it's like that at FLL too...i flew over midfield at 2500 to transition through their airspace when i was flying CRG-HWO...it was a bit of a challenge to take some photos when i was flying over, having to deal with some rough air that day...the IS helped a LOT

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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Thu May 27, 2004 12:48 am

ATL also offers direct overflights.
 
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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Thu May 27, 2004 11:19 am

i'd say quite a few major airports do this...flying directly overhead of the field is just about the safest way to transition through the airspace, avoiding the busy approach/departure corridors to the airport...

it's definitely cool to fly right over top of a busy airport...

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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Thu May 27, 2004 1:33 pm

"..Keep the shutter speed up and have steady hands.."

and don't touch the camera to the a/c at any point.
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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Thu May 27, 2004 4:32 pm

Well, my airport has parallel runways so if i had the chance here i bet I could do it.

Here's another question related, but kind of technical. Is it possible to do a air-to-air shot while flying parralel to a jetliner? Let's say a 747 is on final approach, and I'm in a Cessna flying slightly above and off to one side, maintaining minimum seperation as required. Would the Cessna be too slow to keep up with a jetliner like that at approach speed? That would be such a cool angle though.....

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RE: How Do You Take A Photo Like This?

Thu May 27, 2004 9:38 pm

Is it possible to do a air-to-air shot while flying parallel to a jetliner?

I've done some touch and goes at DIA (DEN for all you non-Coloradans) with jet traffic on a parallel runway, but they are 4300' away, so it's pretty bad. Plus, then you have the Plexiglas issues and turbulence issues to contend with. And, the last time I did that, I had some 3MP 3x zoom digicam. Not going to happen. And of course, flying solo into a major airport is not the time to be gawking at airliners and trying to get some snapshots of them. NTSB report waiting to happen.
If you were able to fly into a major airport with parallel runways, there would be a chance of something like what you describe happening, but the tower would likely stagger your approach behind or way in front of jet traffic simply for wake turbulence issues.
You will never get a direct overflight of DIA since they are operating from all directions all the time it seems. Kind of like pointing a garden hose at the ground.
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