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Should I Appeal?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:47 am

Hi all,

This one has just been rejected for badqualitybadcolour.


Any ideas as to what I can do to improve it, as i thought it was one of my best so far!!

Cheers all,

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RE: Should I Appeal?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:06 am

I don't see the bad quality... or the bad color either...

What you can do, is start from scratch and just play around with the curves...

It looks sharp to me as well.
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RE: Should I Appeal?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:15 am


The only thing I see is the vertical fin/rudder seem to be washing out. Otherwise, nice shot.

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RE: Should I Appeal?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:54 am

I looked at the pic before I read why it was rejected and I thought badcolor myself.

I certainly think you need to lower the blue and/or green in the color balance.

Aside from that, the plane is pretty backlit and might not be good enough anyway. Try using the dodge tool underneath the bottom of the plane at about a 15 exposure with a 100 or 200 sized blurred-edge tool. Confuse you yet? lol Sorry.

Here's a screenshot for you, showing a partial section of the front fuselage that I used the dodge tool with a 15 exposure and the 100 size tool. You can clearly see the difference with the backlit area.

Go easy with the dodge tool. Try to not overdo it, as you'll get grain in the area and it might look uneven. I like to use long fast, but accurate, sweeps uyp and down the area I'm fixing like a paintbrush on a wall.

You can also see where the dodge tool is, the exposure setting on the top, and the size/type of tool I used there also.

I also lowered the green by 14 and lowered the blue by 6 in the color balance and got a more realistic looking color from doing so, making sure the white was the right white and the blue was, well, you get the idea. Can you see the color difference in my screenshot, too?

Hope you don't mind that I edited your shot. Hope this helps.

Good luck,

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RE: Should I Appeal?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:42 am

Hi Paul
The reason it would have bee rejected is for the extremly dar underside.
With direct overhead light its pretty hard to get a nice even exposure direct from the camera.
The best way to fix it and a great tool in PS is to go
Raise the bottom right corner a little and it will add some detail to the underside.
Curves is the best color/light adjustment tool in PS.
Powerful tricky to learn but well worth the effort.
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RE: Should I Appeal?

Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:00 pm

Thanks alot people for all your pointers.

Phil, I'll have a go at that dodge tool, and nope, I have no problem with you editing my shot, it's always good to learn from others and seeing the results afterwards makes it even better!!

Cheers again all, I have a play around and see what I can do with it.


RE: Should I Appeal?

Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:51 pm

I was always taught that it was better to didge and burn using a overlay layer and then painting out the area in white or black (depending if you want to burn or dodge on a 50% grey layer. This way you can adjust the opacity and level of burn. Much better than the dodge tool!

layer/new layer/overlay and tick 50% grey.

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