Dehowie
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Badcentred?

Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:30 pm

Great photo by David,but any reason why it wasn't bounced and recentred prior to uploading?

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From where i sit a quick bit of cropping would have sorted it out and given the number of rejections for this exact reason i am wondering why this one was let slide?
From which an even better photo would have been created.
Darren

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RE: Badcentred?

Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:37 pm

Rare/unusual photos have lower quality standards.

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RE: Badcentred?

Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:39 pm

I think this is one of those situations where the rules say the aircraft must be in the "proper" dead center of the frame should be overlooked. When I look at it, I can almost sense the movement toward me in the direction of the turn, and gives some depth to the image. I'm not sure I would like it as much with the run of the mill centering rule applied.

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RE: Badcentred?

Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:32 pm

I agree Jeff, the framing gives the aircraft space to 'fly into'.

That being said, this has come up before in similar photographs, which have been equally well composed, but rejected for badcentre.

I suppose the rarity and interest of the subject has worked for photographer, screener, and viewer in this instance.
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RE: Badcentred?

Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:56 pm

I like that shot Big grin




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RE: Badcentred?

Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:29 am

Fair enough about the rare photo high quality etc as it is a rare high quality photo.
However my point was it would take less than 60 sec's to make this photo goodcentre'd.

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RE: Badcentred?

Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:38 am

Darren - its only your opinion that centering would improve the pic. Yes, I know A.net likes centered pics, but many of us prefer not to centre. As Jeff has said, in this pic the composition provides depth. There is a visual dynamic to this shot that centering would kill dead.

Sometimes the screeners let us get away with it, sometimes not, but I'd prefer photogs to upload the compositions they're happy with and risk rejection rather than conform to an arbitrary rule.

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RE: Badcentred?

Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:32 am

Hi Colin
I agree that many photo's are improved by non centreing and indeed the 1/3 rule for most shots applies in aeroplane photo's as much as anywhere else.
In this case the A340 looks great at the top of frame and i was more referring to the left right rather than the up down which adds considerably to the photo.
As Jeff said it makes it sem to be moving toward you and Dave has seemingly used the 1/3 rule perfectly to add to the photo.
If anything it goes to show that as a rule a photo which uses the 1/3 rule which ALL landscape photographers,nature photags try to use where ever possible should be applied here at A.Net.
A perect example was my SQ photo from yesterday.
If i was allowed to crop it like this A340 pic it would have looked far more dramatic.
With the aircraft a third of the way up rather than in the middle and the great looking sky occupying over half the photo a more "classic style" aviation photo would have resulted.
The 1/3 rule is a basic rule of photo composition taught to ALL photographers in training yet is considered "badcentrered" at Airliners.
I am wondring why it is so????
Thanks
Darren

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RE: Badcentred?

Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:22 am

WHere did David's photo go.
I seems to have been removed from both the top 24/48 and all its links are dead?
Something funny going on??

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RE: Badcentred?

Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:54 am

Dehowie (Darren) -

Good topic and since you brought it up I viewed your photos. You've been putting some real nice photos up on this site. This one below - fantastic - heat haze in background - very impressionist...


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But since you have mentioned quote "Badcentred?", I think we should talk about this photo below...


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Indeed, a wonderful photo, I have viewed many of similar composition. But I have to say - looks a bit odd to me - unbalanced or as you have said above "Badcentred". I am fascinated with airplanes and for this reason I upload many photos to this site. But I am very limited. My eyes are bad and my camera is very generic. If I could capture an image like the one above, I would show more space beyond the nose of the aircraft. As is, this photo looks bad centered - a bit off balance...

But what do I know?

Keep having fun Darren - your images are great !!


 
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RE: Badcentred?

Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:13 pm

G'day
I personally think you are correct but it is not what the screeners like.
I also think my BA 744 shot is unbalanced(bit like myself sometimes!!) but in shots which include winglets etc the screeners here seem to like the same distance between the extremities of the aircraft.
In this case the winglet and nose.
My personal preference is as you say for balance and for more space on the front so the picture is weighted correctly.
I agree 100%.
Thanks for the kind comments to.
All the best
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RE: Badcentred?

Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:53 pm

uploading a stolen shot is huge, what an asshole
 
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RE: Badcentred?

Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:12 pm

Your kidding???
Unbelievable.
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