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Taking Photos On Planes

Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:28 am

Had a tough tiem gathering bits and pieces fomr previous threads, so I made a new one. Hope you dont mind.

I'm flying LGA-DEN-LAX next week on Frontier, sitting in seats 9A and then 11A on an A319.

I am excited ot have my camera on board with me, but I have many questions. Pardon my ignorance.

- Is it ok to put my camera bag and laptop through the x-ray machine?

- Does my camera count as an electronic device that can't be used during takeoff and landing?

- Anyone know if my seats would afford any special views of the wing or engine?

- I assume I should use my 24-70mm as opposed to my 100-400mm, right?

- Any other general photography tips for shots on airplanes?

Thank you all for your tips. This is new to me.

-Phil


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RE: Taking Photos On Planes

Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:33 am

  • Yes
  • Yes
  • Wing and engine
  • Wide Angle
  • Be original. We also need more pictures of F/A's asses, so post those, too.
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    Dazed767
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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:35 am

    Hate to burst your bubble Phil, 9A doesn't recline due to the exit row behind......10A would be better! I would sit maybe a bit more foward if possible or around 14A, just behind the wing.

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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:42 am

    Phil,

    - The x-ray machine is not a problem.

    - It depends on the rules of Frontierif if you can use your camera during take-off and landing. I'm not familiar with it. Just be on the safe side and take your equipment out after the f/a's checked the cabin and sit down by themselves.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

    - Your seat 11A could be an overwing exit. But I'm not sure. Hopefully not. You had to stow all your bags in an overhead bin during take-off and landing for safety reasons. And later on there's too much wing on your pictures...

    - Your 100-400 is perfect for airport overviews during the flight.



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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:18 am

    Hey Phil:
    Here's a link to a page with the seating chart for a Frontier A319.

    http://www.seatguru.com/frontier/A319.shtml

    And here's the chart itself. Note that RED seats don't recline, and GREEN seats are the emergency row seats.





    Also if you ever want to look up the seating chart of most US based airlines and some foreign airlines here's the link to the site.

    http://www.seatguru.com

    Have a great trip.
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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:39 am

    Phil,
    I fly Frontier all the time. When you get to the ticket counter for check in, just ask them for a different seat. 80% of the time I have, they have given me a choice of different seats. It never hurts to ask.

    Camera bag and laptop HAVE TO go through X-Ray. Won't hurt them, you will have to take the laptop out of any bag before letting it through. It is fun to watch the face of the X-ray guy when they see what is in your camera bag.  Big grin

    Only once did a FA ask me to turn the camera off before takeoff. Just say "O.K." and act like your putting it away. Wait until you take the active runway, they will be belted in, and then pull it back out.

    I would get a rubber lens hood for the 24-70mm so you can press it right up against the window to eliminate any reflections, and it will help keep the lens from banging against the window. I attempted to put the 100-400 on inflight once, and have never tried it again. The A319/A318 is not that spacious...

    As for other tips? Don't try and use a polarizer on the 24-70 if you have one, you'll get some funky rainbows from the a/c window. Try different exposure programs (evaluative, center weighted average, center) you'll be surprised at the difference. There is so much more light airborne, watch your exposures carefully.

    -Jeff

     
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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:47 am

    I always take window shots on all my flights. It goes through the X-ray machine fine, but watch out, TSA sometimes likes to open bags upside down!

    When I get on the aircraft I take my camera out. I never really get many takeoff shots as I like to watch them unobstructed. I've sat next to many people I didn't know while taking window shots, they don't seem to care at all. Watch out for reflections, and try to find a 'clear part' of the window.

    On landing when they require electronics away, I just put the cap on the lense and cover it with my hands in my lap. When the F/As sit down I just take off the cap and shoot away.
     
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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:55 am

    "We also need more pictures of F/A's asses, so post those, too."

    Pay attention to that one, Phil. I can't stress enough how important that is  Big grin
     
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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:53 am

    Only once did a FA ask me to turn the camera off before takeoff. Just say "O.K." and act like your putting it away. Wait until you take the active runway, they will be belted in, and then pull it back out.

    Good point.
    What I do is I put the camera bag by my legs and hold it there, and then I wait until we are taxiing and then I pull the camera out and snap away...


    Make sure to get some shots of the DEN airport if you can...
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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:31 pm

    What I do is use a little compact digital on the plane because it is small and in my opinion easier to handle than a SLR in the limited space.
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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:05 pm

    When you hear "cabin crew, prepare for takeoff", that means you should prepare for some pictures.  Big grin

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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:17 am

    One more VERY important question.

    I understnad I am allowed one piece of carry-on luggage and a personal item. I am curious about the size of that personal item.

    I have my laptop which I will be carrying in a briefcase bag, and then I have my camera bag.

    I explained to a Frontier rep about this, and I'm not sure she exaclty understands the size of my camera bag.

    Here are the two:



    So what do you think? Am I allowed on with these two?

    -Phil

    (pardon the "USA Today". I got it at a hotel complimentary and am only using it now for a size reference. I dont actually read that snotrag)
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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:27 am

    Phil,

    Should be no problem at all...Smaller than what I take on my flights. Airliners Magazine included for size reference



    Not the tripod though  Big grin

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    Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:15 am

    A lot of times they say one carry on bag and one small personal item ie. daypack, purse, etc. Under these circumstances, I have done just that, a bag (that will fit into the overhead bin) and then my backpack that I carry all my camera equipment in.

    If your camera is digital, it shouldn't have a problem going thru the x-ray machine. If it is film, ask TSA to hand check it. They might say "it's no problem unless it's 800 speed or higher"...try to get them to hand check it anyway. I've been successful when I insist on them handchecking the camera or film.

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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:21 pm

    Ah, the Spirit of the West. Flew them to Den a year ago, was pretty nice.

    I had little success shooting out of my window because of the glare... so just find the right angle and you'll be set.

    I sat in 3A for the whole trip so all I got was a little engine in my view.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:37 pm

    Matt

    Nice choice of mags to display  Smile Taken with a Nikon of course Big grin

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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:45 pm

    Ho Art................

    I just knew you couldn't resist!

    And Phil, any problems in flight, just tell em to "kiss off"

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    RE: Taking Photos On Planes

    Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:39 pm

    A few carriers allow a second "full size" carry-on for cameras for photographers, and I believe Frontier is one of them, although it's up to them at the individual airport.

    On their 319's, the row in front of the exit row doesn't recline.

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