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Opinions Needed

Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:44 am

Ok guys, I've compiled a pretty much final list of my camera equipment which I will be collecting over the next (long) while... I would love to hear any comments or criticisms anyone has to add. Also, is there anything I should add, take away etc.? I need some input on the memory too... Thanks!  Smile

Canon 10D Digital SLR Camera Body Kit - €1,047.42
IBM Microdrive 1GB - ~€150
Canon EF 100-400mm f/ 4.5/5.6L USM - €1,047.42
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM - €910.44
Canon BG-ED3 Vertical Battery Grip - €136.93
Canon BP-511A Li-on Rechargeable Battery Pack x3 - €120.74
Canon CA-PS400 Double Battery charger - €88.59
SmartDisk FTX20 FlashTrax 20GB Portable Hard Drive - €321.48

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Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:08 am

I would concentrate on extra memory before buying things like battery packs and battery grips. I'd rather have an array of memory cards (say 1 microdrive and 5 flash cards) then 1 flash card abd a portable hard drive, which I would reserve for long trips away from home.
 
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:29 am

Thanks for your input clickhappy! I'm not very experienced when it comes to this sort of digital media... Do you mean you need CFs to go with a microdrive? As far as I'm concerned, a 1GB microdrive would be fine. Shooting RAW that's about 125 pictures and with the image tank I could store a total of 2500 pictures or so. I doubt I'd ever take anywhere near that amount of pictures on a trip.

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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:35 am

You will receive many differing opinions on microdrives vs. compact flash. What you can't dispute is that compact flash is solid state, so there are no moving parts which in theory means it will be more reliable.

Since they are roughly the same price, I prefer CF.
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:45 am

I use a 1gb cf card and have a 40gb portable drive. I also use 128mb cf card to get me thru the file transfer which usually takes 15 minutes.

Smart decision. It makes sense to by a portable hard drive for those long trips away from your computer.

http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/s.nl/c.ACCT139057/sc.2/category.133/it.A/id.181/.f

This can also be used as an mp3 player.





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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:46 am

I'm shocked Royal (Clickhappy) didn't say you need to go Nikon. Nice list. I have everything on there except the battery grip and the 24-70mm. I have a 28-135mm IS in it's place. One thing you might do is on the 100-400mm, if you can afford it, go IS. Image Stabalization ROCKS!!! The cheapest I have found it is $1389 USD. I get mine Friday. Finally. Another thing you may want in the future is a 2X extender. But that isn't important right now. BTW for those using a BP-511. One of mine died after 4 years, so I bought a BP-511A. It is way better. I can shoot a lot longer with the 511A than I ever could with the 511.

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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:12 pm

Thanks a lot folks for the comments again!

Maiznblu_757 - Your advice is excellent and I may just use it! With regards to CF cards, are there any reputable brands that you could recommend? With regards to the image tank, the one on my list is also an MP3 player.  Big grin

Bill - Thanks for your comments. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to try and sway me over to Nikon, but perhaps it won't happen?  Smile With regards to the 24-70mm. The reason I have chosen this lens is because I want to stick to the L glass. This seems to be the best choice for me in terms of a nice wide angle combined with pretty much closing the gap to the next lens, 100-400mm. The 100-400mm comes with IS by the way, so I'm set in that department.  Big grin

I'll consider the 2X extender at some stage too for some extra long range stuff. Anyone got any recommendations on that front? I have no ideas on extenders... Are there any that fit the 100-400mm? And should I expect to be paying big money for it? Will there be significant drop in image quality or whatever? etc. etc.  Big grin

Thanks guys!!!

John

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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:19 pm

Right, a quick search on Adorama produced this - Canon Extender EF 1.4x II... This could quite well be one for the future?

"This tele extender can be used with fixed focal length lenses 135mm and longer (except the 135mm f/2.8 Softfocus lens), and the EF 70-200 f/2.8L, 70-200 f/2.8L IS, 70-200 f/4.0L, and 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS zoom lenses. Superb optically, it preserves the image quality of the lens it's mounted to and multiplies its focal length 1.4x. Effective aperture is reduced by one f-stop; autofocus is possible on any EOS camera when combined with a lens having an f/4 or faster maximum aperture. The new version II maintains the outstanding optics of the previous version, and adds enhanced weather- resistant construction, and improved anti-reflective surfaces in the barrel.

(When used with EF Extender EF 1.4x II, the EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM lens is compatible for auto exposure with all EOS cameras. However, you lose autofocus with all EOS cameras except those with a 45-point AF system, such as EOS-3, EOS-1v, EOS-1D, EOS-1Ds and EOS-1D Mark II. Only the center focusing point is functional when this lens/extender combination is used with the 45-point AF cameras. Also, when the EF100-400L is used with the EF 1.4x II, the Image Stabilizer function does not work with older EOS 35mm cameras such as the EOS 650, 620, 630/600, RT, 700, 750, 850, EOS-1, A2/A2E, 10s, Elan, Rebel/Rebel S, and Rebel II/Rebel SII.)"

Thanks again for your input Bill!

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Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:47 pm

Ok, I've had another look through Adorama for the memory.

What do you guys think of:

SanDisk 256MB Ultra II CompactFlash Memory Card x1
SanDisk 1GB Ultra II 60X CompactFlash Memory Card x1

Total: €221.49

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:06 am

John,
If I were you I wouldn't bother getting a microdrive, I would get two 512mb CFII (make sure they are the fast write speed version) cards and a 40GB flashtrax http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/DigitalMultimedia/FlashTrax.asp
I have similar setup and I have no problems what so ever with capacity or write speeds.

It's a simple case of when one card is full you swap cards and then write the full card to the flashtrax - one simple push button!

Don't get Canon batteries either, I have three after market equivalents from http://www.7dayshop.com the money saved can buy you UV filters to protect that expensive glass. There is no difference - apart from the price  Smile

I would buy the vertical grip, it helps tremendously with holding the 10D when using such lenses as the 100-400L IS. It also has a shutter release etc for portrait work.

I would also check that the twin battery charger can actually charge two batteries at the same time, I remember reading somewhere that it charges them one at a time, so if this is true it would seem silly to waste your money. I would check this out though.

The extenders will work on any Canon EF lens but...as stated above you will not have AF on certain models dependent on the f number.

Hope some of this proves of use, best of luck.

Ian Woodcock.

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:08 am

I do not agree with Clickhappy that grips and batteries shold get the bump.

Personally I feel that the batterygrip for the D60 was worth every cent, and since I shoot in sub zero climate much of the time, the powersupply are a prime concern for me.

I would allso consider the 70-200, perhaps with an extender before going for the 100-400. The glass in the 70-200 lenses are better.
 
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Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:13 am

Something I dont understand is advicing him to get a 2x extender. The 100-400 is completely not sharp enough to handle a 2x. The 1.4x will work reasonably, but the 10D will not be able to AF if you attach it.

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:30 am

Extender: As Wietse stated, stay away from the extender for the 100-400mm.

Batteries: Yes, I went and spent the big bucks on the Canon brand, then found out, that the no branders are just as good. I have a buddy that picked 3 new rechargeable batteries up from E Bay at a cost of $12.00... TOTAL. Oh well.

Grip: I too suggest the grip. It makes a major difference in the size of the camera, and the added battery life is a major plus. Cant go wrong.



 
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Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:31 am

Ok, thanks again guys.

Ian - I figure the 20GB FlashTrax would do me... 2500 images is more than plenty. I don't shoot everything that moves.  Smile Can you give me any more info. on these UV filters? Are they expensive? I thought I heard they detract from image quality? Also, thanks for the heads up about the twin charger... I'll look into that more.

EDIT: Ian, regarding the charger, it says in the description "This compact charger and AC adapter can charge two BP-511 battery packs simultaneously at a rate of 90 minutes each". This seems a little sketchy to me... It says simultaneously and then says 90 minutes each, I'm not sure what to take out of that?

Contact_tower - Thanks a lot. I've been following the threads and such regarding the 70-200mm + 1.4x against the 100-400mm and have decided to go for it. I realise the glass is of a higher quality but the 100-400 is an excellent lens at a cheaper price.  Big grin

Wietse - Thank you also for your comments. Bare in mind the extender would only be purchased much more into the future after I get the more important stuff. I would of course go for the 1.4x. I think it may be useful if there are any interesting aircraft parked on the airfield that are quite a distance away. Also, are you sure about the AF not working on the 10D with it? I guess this should not be too big a problem but it would be nice if it did.  Smile

Thanks again guys!
John

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:55 am

John,
That is the line I couldn't figure out. I think it's meant to read like that so that we go out and get one then realize it doesn't actually do as we thought  Sad Possibly better speak to a good Canon dealer.

UV filters should not detract from image quality. 7dayshop also sell them, Hama ones for the 100-400L IS cost £7.49 each. In my eyes they are well worth the money. If to use them or not has been well written about on these forums but, I always use them.
Picture the scene - I'm taking some photos of a helicopter, hovering for me about 40' away, kicking up lots of dust and gravel. After the shoot I happen to brush the 'dust' off the lens filter but it isn't dust, it's small chips in the UV filter....now to replace my 17-35 EX lens would cost a hell of a lot more than £7.49 think on.

It's the lenses that dictate whether or not the AF works when a converter is attached. It's all down to the smallest aperture, read the information about the converters. I'm positive that the 100-400 will lose AF with the converters attached.

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:06 am

Ian, thanks a lot! Your input has been invaluable. I might just e-mail Adorama about the charger. If you think about it... What's the point on even designing the dual charger if it only charges one at a time... hehe

Anyway, your advice on the UV filters has been sound. I gather from the name it also guards from UV rays? I've looked through Adorama and there are two filters... Clear protection and UV, which am I looking for?

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:56 am

I can assure you that the dual charger works sequentially. The small advantage of the double charger is that you can put both batteries in, leave it overnight and forget about it. But there is no difference in the time it takes between chargeing 2 batteries in the single battery model provided with the 10D or in the dual battery charger.

Memory - given that you plan to acquire a protable storage device, I would recommend 2 cards of equal capacity (eg. 2x 512mb) - by downloading one, you shoot with the other meaning uninterupted shooting. In this scenario, write speed is more important than capacity, so go with the fastes cards you can afford.

Convertors - if you are set on the 100-400, I would simply forget about them.

Filters - varying views on this (search for an earlier thread where this was discussed at length). But unless you are prepared to pay serious money for quality filters (eg. B&W), don't bother.

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:14 am

Colin, thanks a lot. I guess the double charger is really just a waste of money then... How long does one of the 511As take to charge anyway?

Regarding the memory... Do you think two of these would be adequate?

http://www.adorama.com/IDS512UC2F.html

It says the write speed is 9MB per second... I'm not sure if that's good or not? Considering a RAW image is 8MB according to Canon...

Also, I guess I'll throw the convertor idea out.

I'm really in two minds about the filter though...

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:56 am

Charging time ... not sure exactly, but I think its about 2 hours or so from empty.

I use the cards you referenced, and found them fine, but I believe there are faster models from Lexar (at a price!). I think this type is good value for money - and they do have a replacement warranty which I can attest is honoured!

Filters - I'm in 2 minds about them myself ... there have been times when I thought they were essential, but currently I never use them.

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:02 am

Two hours isn't so bad... Maybe I'll just buy another charger like the one that comes with the 10D and plug it into another socket. Big grin

I think I'll go for these cards. They seem to be good value and if they worked for you, they'll certainly work for me!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy By the way, what's the advantage of fast cards?

I guess the filters would be essential when in a case like Ian's. Damage caused by debris etc. is undesirable. I don't see a situation where I'd be coming in contact with this sort of problem though.

John

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:14 am

"Damage caused by debris etc. is undesirable. I don't see a situation where I'd be coming in contact with this sort of problem though."

Damage caused by anything is undesirable from my point of view....  Big grin

 
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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:17 am

Well, by saying debris I meant everything of course! Big grin

Also, I did say "etc."  Laugh out loud

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:17 am

I would much rather use a UV filter and replace it (if dameged) rather than not have it and wind up replacing a very expensive lens. Just my opinion though.

 
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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:20 am

Your opinion is valued, thanks Maiznblu_757! Do you think there are absolutely no draw backs to using a UV filter though?

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:41 am

Some people say there is, some people say there isnt.

http://www.2filter.com/faq/multicoatedfaq.html
 
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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:43 am

Ok guys, here's an updated list pretty much in order of purchase...

Canon 10D Digital SLR Camera Body Kit - €1,047.42
SanDisk 512MB Ultra II CompactFlash Memory Card x2 - €193.34
SmartDisk FTX20 FlashTrax 20GB Portable Hard Drive - €321.48
Canon EF 100-400mm f/ 4.5/5.6L USM - €1,047.42
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM - €910.44
Canon BG-ED3 Vertical Battery Grip - €136.93
Canon BP-511A Li-on Rechargeable Battery Pack x3 - €120.74
Canon CB-5L Replacement Battery Quick Charger - €38.66

You guys are going to have to convince me on these UV filters. Also, I've just stumbled across something which I didn't pick up on earlier. Because I'm getting this stuff from the US the plugs will probably be their standard two prong plugs? In Ireland we use the three pronged plug, I'm not sure about other countries. Can someone verify that I'm correct here? If this is the case I'll need an adapter, which isn't too big a problem.

John

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:50 pm

Hi all,

Lets hear it for the mighty 3-pin plugs which we all know are better  Smile

As for UV filters, you wait till you have an unexpected accident and perhaps drop your 100-400 and it hits the ground, smash......front of your lens smashed up or a UV filter which you can replace?

UV filter every time

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:54 pm

Hi Ben,
As you have written, it's the unexpected accident that will cost you a new lens.

John, are you going to be short of time for charging batteries then...?
I cannot see why you are buying another charger, I'm sure I'm not the only one that has just the one charger. I've never been in the situation where I couldn't plan ahead and have all four charged. Heck this weekend was the only time I have used all four batteries, they last for ages in the 10D - so long as you don't keep on looking at the LCD screen  Smile

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:00 pm

Ben - Amen!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Ok, ok... I'll get two UV filters then, but only if you help me chose them.  Smile I'd like to stick to the Canon brand (more expensive I know!) so I found that they do these ones on Adorama...

http://www.adorama.com/CA52UV.html

I'd need two 77mm ones for the lenses I am getting.

Ian, you probably have a good point. I figured if I was ever away spotting I'd probably need an extra charger but I guess the four would last me one day and then I could charge them overnight. I can see my self looking at the LCD everytime I take a shot though... I'd decide whether to keep or delete right there and then. So what do you think?

Thanks again guys!

John

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:14 pm

Be careful reviewing shots on the cameras LCD screen, it's not the best tool for the job.
With the two 512mb cards and a flashtrax you have plenty of storage space so you need not delete images.

Use the LCD screen for reviewing the histogram of an image to see if you have the camera set right, then only check if the light changes.

Another thing to check the LCD screen for when shooting props is whether you have 'prop blur' then adjust the shutter speed to suit.

You will find that as time passes you won't look at the screen much.

For info: You need cards with fast write speeds so you can shoot several images one after the other. As the camera has to work hard to process all the information then write it to the card it fills up the buffer, if the camera can write quicker to the card then it's ready to take another image sooner. Not a very good description but hopefully you get what I mean!

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:14 pm

Something I dont understand is advicing him to get a 2x extender. The 100-400 is completely not sharp enough to handle a 2x

Why is that, Wietse?  Confused

I've heard (and seen) that combination works pretty fine, when comparing the mms you get! But I think MF is needed for that.


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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:23 pm

Thanks guys. I think you're right Ian, thanks for the advice. As for the fast write speeds, I think I understand. Do you think the flash cards I have shown above will do the job and let me take shots in quick succession?

Joge, thanks for that. Just at the moment I don't see myself getting a convertor. If I do it would be the 1.4x but I doubt I'd ever get it. But we'll see.  Smile

Thanks,
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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:41 pm

I've heard (and seen) that combination works pretty fine, when comparing the mms you get! But I think MF is needed for that.Correct me Janne if I'm wrong.

Ok, then I correct Big grin

100-400 + 2x is not a very nice combination to use. Viewfinder gets dark and MF with DSLR is not very nice thing to do. However it is possible to get some acceptable shots with the above combo but it is not easy. Sharpness is probably acceptable but the thing that irritates me is the lack of contrast, images become so "flat" and dull that it's very hard to fix it even in Photoshop. If I get to choose, I would pick only 1.4 for 100-400, 2x tends to be too much.

FYI, Joge I haven't used 100-400 with converters for a looong time  Big grin. A 400mm fixed prime plus converter(s) works much better for me than 100-400  Big thumbs up

-Janne

btw. thanks for the plug  Smile

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:48 pm

John,

As Janne said, the 100-400 is not easy to use with the 2x, so at least I would drop the 2x TC off from my shopping list. Have you decided what to get between the gap of 70-100mm?

Jormy:

You gave away your 100-400?  Wow!

What is this, seems like people want now to get rid of that lens? Even Wietse is selling his own?  Confused

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:02 pm

You gave away your 100-400?

Noo... I didn't say so  Smile 100-400 is still a great lens and it stays in my arsenal at least so long until Canon gets something new out  Big grin


Anyway, what comes to the original topic, I'd say the Sandisk Ultra II's are the best cards you can get today for the money. I have one of those and it's lightyears ahead of my IBM microdrive in terms of speed (ok, perhaps not the best card to compare to but still).

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Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:07 pm

I think the thing with the 100-400mm is that it is a great lens when you are starting to build your collection. It's of good quality, has IS and covers a very useful range. However, if you begin aquiring some of Canon's other L lenses, in comparison the quality isn't so good, and the requirement for the zoom range is less.

The 100-400 does the job of 2 or even 3 other lenses, but if you eventually get those lenses, the 100-400 becomes redundant.


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Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:19 pm

Thanks guys. I guess the convertor is only really a very small possibility. Like I said, I wouldn't have that much use for it.

Joge: Call me crazy or whatever, but I decided not to fill the 70-100mm gap right now. I don't think it's necessary. Maybe in the future at some stage.

Colin: Thanks again! I've read quite a lot of your posts concerning the 100-400mm and I have to say it seems like the perfect lens for me. I would only ever like to carry two lenses at a time. I realise this could limit me somewhat but this is how I feel.

So I guess it's about time I start finalising my list. Does anyone feel I'm missing something or should change something? I'm still looking for the right UV filters.

John

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John Massey... Canon EOS 20D - Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM (For the moment)
 
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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:29 pm

What comes to the UV filters, I wouldn't pick any "cheap" filters for this caliber of lenses, since it's quite easy to ruin an expensive lens with a bad filter. I would look either Hoya's or B&W's "multilayered" line-up. I have my 77mm threads covered with Hoya S-HMC pro1 filters which costs about 60-70 euros in Europe but I think they are worth it.

-Janne
 
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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:32 pm

Thanks Janne. Just bare in mind I know nothing about filters.  Smile Do you mean I need several filters/threads (?) for my lenses?

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John
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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:36 pm

Also, am I looking for a UV filter or a clear protection filter?

John
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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:37 pm

Well, since you're getting two lenses, I'd also get two identical filters with 77mm thread: one for each lens. The main idea of a UV filter is to protect the front element and that's why it should be there all the time.

-Janne

EDIT:
It's up to you which filter to choose but I would pick UV since it's almost the same thing as a 'clear protection filter' (so it affects very little to final image). UV filters are also better available in stores than plain protection filters.

[Edited 2004-07-12 15:42:50]
 
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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:43 pm

The thread part is the thingie that is on every lens (up to a certain size ofcourse) The thread is where you need to twist your filther into.
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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:43 pm

So two "Hoya 77mm UV (Ultra Violet) Super Multi Coated Pro-1 Extra Thin Glass Filters" will be perfect?

John
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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:46 pm

Sounds good to me  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:56 pm

Ok, cool, €154.88 total.  Smile

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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:28 pm

Hmmm, just noticed your post now Wietse, it almost escaped me. That's what I thought the threads were alright, thanks for the explanation!

John

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RE: Opinions Needed

Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:42 pm

Right, last question...  Smile I presume I can use these filters together with the lens hood?

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RE: Opinions Needed

Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:04 am

Yupp, works fine with all my lenses anyway!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Opinions Needed

Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:39 am

Yes, the lens hood connection is in a different place than the filterthread.
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RE: Opinions Needed

Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:33 am

Ok, great.  Smile Thanks Wietse and Contact_tower!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

In that case, this is the final list in order of purchase!  Smile

Canon 10D Digital SLR Camera Body Kit - €1,047.42
SanDisk 512MB Ultra II CompactFlash Memory Card x2 - €193.34
SmartDisk FTX20 FlashTrax 20GB Portable Hard Drive - €321.48
Canon EF 100-400mm f/ 4.5/5.6L USM - €1,047.42
Hoya 77mm UV (Ultra Violet) Super Multi Coated Pro-1 Extra Thin Glass Filter x2 - €154.88
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM - €910.44
Canon BG-ED3 Vertical Battery Grip - €136.93
Canon BP-511A Li-on Rechargeable Battery Pack x3 - €120.74

Again, thanks you EVERYONE who replied and gave an input! Your comments have been invaluable.

Thanks,
John
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