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AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:50 pm

Two weeks late, but no one started a thread reviewing the massive amount of activity that went down in Los Angeles form July 8-10 for the Airliners International 2004 convention.

HAnging out and eating at In-N-Out, taking pics on top of the garage or the grass, Lincoln Bridge, Imperial Hill and more, I have an amazing time.

With the amazing light, weather and angles, not to mention the amazing traffic that comes in, it's no wonder why I shot over 2,000 photos during the week I was there.

Meeting tremendous names like Paul Paulson and Jay Piboontum, and some guy named Sam  Big grin, not to mention countless other amazing people, it was the trip of trips for me.

Here is a group shot that was taken on top of the garage by In-N-Out. I've never seen guys screaming and cheering at the planes and drinking beer like it was a football game. It was amazing.



To view a 1024 wide version of this shot to save, click here:

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It was an amazing time. I expect everoyne that was there to:

1. Check in here and tell about your time at the show and spotting adventures.

2. If you're in the picture there, say which one is you.

3. PLUG YOUR SHOTS FROM THE TRIP!!!


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Was a great tiem with you all. thank you all so much!

-Phil
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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:17 pm

Awesome thread. I had a great time that weekend, LAX is always a cool (literally) getaway from PHX.

My shots are still in the queue, but here's a preview:

http://www.cactuswings.com/photos/0407-1642-lax-n289mt.jpg

I wasn't in the picture above - I shot 24R arrivals further down along Westminister. But I did meet many of you, and to those that I didn't, I hope you had an enjoyable trip out to SoCal.

Phil, I didn't meet you personally, but I think I saw you at the slide auction ... welcome to the world of slides buddy. If Joe P is your mentor, you'll be in the big leagues faster than you can say Kodachrome.

Cheers,
Terry


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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Fri Jul 30, 2004 2:26 pm

OH MAN! You got the raptor nose! I missed that thing by MINUTES!!!! Congrats bro.

Thanks, Terry. Hopefully I'll be able to catch up with you sometime soon. Joe's ok, I'm still showing him the ropes.  Big grin

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:17 pm

A hungry and homeless guy shows how to do LAX:




Oh back to business, I would like to thank you for all those turned up at the show, and sincerely thank our friend Mike Carter (director of tours), Stephen Tornblom, Craig Morris, and all the officials for their time and effort organised a highly successful show. (at least for me)

It was a pleasure meeting many of you, finally putting a few name to faces there. Also a big surprise former airport manager and chief of operation also stopped by my table  Wink/being sarcastic

Wow great shot Phil, looks like you guys had a huge blast there!! Too bad I can't join all of you there in that photo! I really wish that I had more time at LAX!!!! Weather was absolutly gorgeous (highly unusual) and a fine selection of traffic there too include the Voodoo 727!!!

Oh big phil...did you hear that big Sam guy won the Photo competition (2 years in a row!) blahahahahlahaha  Big grin  Insane

Is the last person Henry Tenby on top left?? wow Chris Kilroy also there!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Hope to see many of you in Milwaukee AI 2005.

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:44 pm

Great!! It is wonderful times of you guys were there in LAX and will you even be there in MKE for next year in 2005? I can't wait to see let me go visit in MKE for next year in 2005. I am really looking forward to see them.

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:41 am

It was a great time out there in LA, Meet a lot of great people including Phil. LAX was an amazing place to shoot, from Imperial Hill to the In-N-Out. Most of my shots are still in the queue. Saw a lot of airlines we don't usually get here in NY.

Got this shot on my way to LA

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And here is one that made it so far.


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It was a great time.

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Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:22 am

How I wish I could come all the way over there for this! How about me coming next year?!

Looks like you guys got good weather huh?!  Big grin

Good to see my friend Josh May in there!  Big thumbs up

Cheers,

A very envious Justin  Sad
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Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:35 am

Phil when was that group photo....why am I not in it!?!?  Sad LOL anyways it was a blast, hope MKE will be just as good.

Sam - Where is his "Will work 4 Kodachrome" sign??  Big grin

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:45 am

Here's a few more pics from the trip:

This is from inside the convention. An awesome time, jsut an absolute field day.


The Mojave tour was amazing. Your eyes can't move fast enough. As exciting as it is, it's equally sad knowing that the last time I see something like a Delta L-1011 is with it's tail cut off on its side like it faced a guillotine.





Justin insisted we take this shot. I have to represent in my Excitebike t-shirt.  Big grin


Here's Matthew Smith showin us how it's done. I had to actually edit out his sunburn a litlte bit!



Aircraft-wise, this was my most exciting grab for me, as I've been wanting to see this bird again for years.


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-Phil

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:05 am

Rad.

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:21 am

Phil:

When I look at the group photo above (I am the second person over from the lower right hand corner) it brings back all the wonderful memories of that day. For once we were a force to be reckoned with. Not just the two or three locals, but thirty or more people shooting from all over the north complex. (24’s) Not even the Parking Spot security wanted to attempt an expulsion of that many avid photographers, as evident in the group shot above.

Meeting new photographers like yourself, Jason Cederholm, Ron Peel, and Matthew Smith was surly a pleasure. Plus, seeing old friends like Jay Piboontum, Tim Keeney, Ryan Spencer Morgheim, and Chris K. rounded out what was one perfect day.

Speaking of a perfect day.... if you check out the photo below you will see what I mean. The evening time was sooooooo beautiful, with long shadows and puffy clouds to accent our shots, heaven on earth… to say the least.


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After the sun had set below the horizon, about ten of us made our way over to the Proud Bird restaurant. Good conversation, a great meal, plus a 747 passing right by our window, this was the icing on the cake that made this day really sweet!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:36 am

Looks like a great show. I should come over next year and attach a nice 2 week shooting trip in the southwest.

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:36 am

Sam, that is one AWFUL pic of me, darn!  Big grin I really do look like a homeless dude haha.

Phil, send me your address so i can get you that check airlinephoto@yahoo.com

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:41 am

Joe you lost a little weight? Big grin

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:03 am

Seems like you guys had a great time over there at sunny LAX. The only time I visited LAX (so far!) was back in 1998. Unfortunately I didn't have the chance of getting some nice photos.

Chances are however I'll be paying LAX a nice little visit next year...

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:17 am

Well, it was a great time but it sure as hell went quickly! In the group shot I am on the right side in the blue/white shirt and white hat. Here are a few shots....

Its obvious that Phil doesnt have his priorities stright!  Big grin



However, unlike Phil, Ron knows whats good for him!



Just a shot I took from the parking garage



And finally just a plug of one of my pics...


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Hopefully MKE will be just as good as LAX!

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:11 am

Well a thread was started in the civil portion on the Saturday or Sunday of the weekend of the show, but it got dumped into the hobby portion...

Nice group shot by the way, good to see so many people out there...

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:23 am

TOTALLY Paul, definately amazing to see the new and old together. It was great to see all of you old LAX folks (Paul P., Josh M., Jason W., and minus good old REVE away to France and others) as it has been a long time since I last stopped by there. Hopefully I will see more of you guys this fall again if work doesn't hold me back from making a weekend trip to LAX.

Eventhough I was only there for the weekend, AI2004 turns out really well. Spend some good $$$ on models making Chris K. very happy  Smile  Smile  Smile. It was a great pleasure to meet the infamous Big Phil and the big ANET name, Joe P. BTW, Phil doesn't look all that tough after all, any child can take him down!!!  Smile  Smile  Smile. Joe, got a great shot of you, Joe, inside LAX on the North runway with aircraft landing. Still in the queue so can't link it yet  Smile.

Phil, PHX welcomes you anytime. Drop me a line and we are ready to host you.

Great meeting all you guys again and have a great summer!!!

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:02 pm

I had a fabulous time there,too. It all started with flying in on a United 744! My first time on a 747.
The ramp tour at LGB was great. My first time on a full-motion simulator and a cabin simulator. Also got to go in a brand new 717. Still had the plastic on the carpeting.

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I got some nice shots (for me at least),too.

My first time seeing Aeroflot up close , new colors , too .


The MHV tour was fantastic,I was on a tour last Dec,but the Security guard doing the tour wouldn't take me out to the line. Special thanks to Javier for putting up with us 'nuts'. Here's the L1011 tail,too .



And 3 HA -10's ......




Sure was nice NOT being hassles watching planes @ LAX,sure wish it was that way back home.... and yeah the only Heavy we get is Fed Ex A300/A310's ...
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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:30 pm

Phil, Thanks for starting this thread dude, AI 2004 was a great time, really glad I got to share it with some of my fellow New Yorkers, and as it with every AI Convention it was great meeting new people and fellow photographers and I especially enjoyed meeting some of the L.A. area locals.
BTW in the group shot and I am top row, 4th from left in purple shirt with sunburn starting to kick-in (it was so worth it). Later in the thread that's my backside at MHV shooting the Orbital L-1011. For those of you who could not make it as you can see we had great weather and a lot of fun. I enjoyed meeting everyone and hanging out. A big thank you to Michael Carter, Craig Morris, and Marshall Pumphrey and the rest of the hardworking AI2004 Staff for putting on a "Great Convention", you guys can hold your heads high !

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:30 pm

OK........Here are the BOYS shooting away at the BIG bird in the sky!! Oh yes...from the top of the Parking Spot garage..



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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 2:18 pm

looks like you guys had fun. ron... next time remember to take the hat out of your bag! Big grin
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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Jul 31, 2004 3:12 pm

Sorry I missed that. I was up at JFK and EWR that weekend...Phil you're lookin awfully small bud, lose some weight?  Big grin
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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:39 am

AI2004 was definately the best show I've been to. I met a lot of people, got to do some cool things, picked up some great stuff, and got some good slides from the southern California airports. The AI2004 staff did a great job! Thanks goes out to Michael Carter, Steve Griffin, Matt Cornell, Stephen Tornblom, and Rick Covington! The MKE guys are going to have a hard time topping this show!

One of the show's highlights for me was the visit to Alteon:



I didn't get to fly the MD-11, but I did get a chance at the 737-200/300. Having never been able to do something like this I got hooked easily! I'm definately booking time when I come back to southern California for my winter photography.


Mike is about ready to put us in the drink in the 737-200/300 simulator...


Checking out the Turkmenistan 717 on the Boeing ramp was definately a pleasant surprise!


The other highlight was being able to take a short flight in a DC-3. The flight departed Hawthorne and flew along the coast toward Long Beach before turning around:



Got a nice view of the Queen Mary.


A flight deck visit was encouraged. Probably the last time we'd be able to do this given the current security climate in the U.S.


All three flights during the day were sold out. Justin Cederholm was the only person I knew that was on my flight.

I would post more pics (these are from my crappy, digital camera), but they're on slides and it's going to take a while to get to them...

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:47 am

Well, I am really glad that you guys enjoyed the Alteon tour, hope that everybody enjoyed their goodie bag & the posters.

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Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:10 am

The dinner at the Proud Bird was also a great night. Nice meeting you Phil. Too bad I had to work for most of the show. Oh well.....

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Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:12 am

I also enjoyed AI2004 and Phil, it was nice to finally meet you in person, considering we've never met in NYC. One day, we'll have to meet at the Rodeo Bar.

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Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:15 am

"looks like you guys had fun. ron... next time remember to take the hat out of your bag! "

I needed that hat, damn I got burned...I was in pain on my flights back to Chicago.

AS you know Phil, NY is nothing compared to Chicago Big grin
 
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Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:04 am

I am somewheRe in that picture, but due to all the bashing of me on Airwhiners, I will stay anonymous.  Big grin

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:45 am

I have a general question what is the widest focal length from that parking garage for a 747 to get a side shot. I have a 10D and 100-400 MM L for those that don't know.
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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:01 am

Hi Everybody, I like to say its probably the best convention I have ever gone to.It was see old and meet new friends there.
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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:16 pm

From memory, I could not get a full side-on shot with my 100-400, but I highly recommend still using it for nice clsoe shots. Side-on is nice and all, but to have a perch like this and not take advantage with close up shots is a waste.

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Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:23 pm

Keep the comments coming in dudes!
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Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:09 am

More comments???? Hummmmm.... lets see... Lot767-300ER thinks Chicago is great!!! You out numbered pal!!! Phil and I don't think so.  Smile  Smile  Smile

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:21 am

If anybody has anymore pictures from the Alteon tour, can you kindly email them to me:
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Thanks

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:56 pm

Matt,

I have my priorities straight. I'm just quicker to take care of my pics.



See? I took care of business.

 Big grin

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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:16 pm

Hi All,

I'm glad that everyone enjoyed AI2004 and especially the tours. Many thanks go to many people who through their love of aviation and our hobby made the tours possible.

Mike Comminullo and Jim Garner (Alteon)
John Olim and Don Stevens (CDC -- Boeing Commercial Delivery Center at Long Beach)
Ken Ashmore (Long Beach Airport)
All the folks at Chino Airport
Vern Alexander (Avtel -- Mojave Airport)
Rick Quillen (Chief of Security -- Mojave Airport)
Javier (Fueling Extraordinar -- Mojave Airport)

It's a kick to see all the photos, sorry I missed the Saturday afternoon shooting trip to the parking garage, but duty called at the show as we got set up for the banquet that evening.

It was great meeting everybody and again I'm very happy that everyone enjoyed the tours it was a pleasure arranging them for you.

See you next year at AI2005 and some of you this winter at LAX.

Mike
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Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:23 am


Mike

What the hell is "winter at LAX?" Is that another show going on>????


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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:50 am

Great photos! I hope to see you all at next year's convention at MKE. I'll have my car and drive to there. So I hope to see you all there for Milwaukee.
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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Sun Aug 08, 2004 9:59 pm

Mike,

The winter is the best time to shoot at LAX, great light all day long. You will of course join us one day?

Mike
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RE: AI2004 Convention In LA - Review

Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:42 am

Thanks for arranging the tours Mioke Carter (LGBGuy). I loved them. I only went on the one to Encounters but that was awesome. You might remember me. I was the one who finally brought the check on the last possible day. THat was the most fun I have had involving airplanes ever. I can't wait to see what trips the crew for Milwaukee has planned.
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