Horus
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Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:43 am

I'm thinking about buying a digital camera, for general use (nothing professional) and wasn't sure what to go for. Now I do NOT want anything too fancy or too expensive but something that is ideal for plane spotting...off course.

Anyway I found a camera for £240 with the following specifications:

4 million pixel
PictBridge enabled
3x optical zoom
128Mb memory card
4x digital zoom
Movie mode facility
1.8" LCD screen
XD Memory Type
3 resolution settings
LCD Screen

Now I'm not a technical person, so I mean are these specifications good? Would photos be good enough to be accepted in A.net? What specifications are required to generate a high quality picture?

Since I'll be buying the camera in the UK, any feedback from UK members would be excellent

Thanks in advance

Horus


p.s. I posted a similar post in the non-aviation forum, but was told it's best to post it here




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Woody001
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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:53 am

Horus,
You may in certain locations/situations find the 3x optical zoom very limiting. Do not rely on the digital zoom either, this effectively crops the image so you will loose pixels and hence quality.

What are the three levels of resolution?

In my experience you need to buy a model that has a fast time between first pressing the shutter button and image capture - commonly known as shutter lag. This will be the one thing that causes you to miss shots.

It would also be a good idea for the camera to have a level of manual control, so you don't have to rely on the camera thinking for you. This is the best way to learn how certain settings can alter an image.

Good luck,
Ian.

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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:35 pm

A good resource for researching:


http://www.cnet.com

Look hard enough and you will find a link to a site that will tell you just about everything you will want to look for in a digital camera.
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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:09 pm

Hey Horus,
I have a camera with only 3x optical zoom. And to be honest, I think 3x optical zoom is to little. I am also looking for a new camera.
I talked to JKW777 last night. And he gave me some good advice. But they are more expensive than 240GBP
It's a DSLR Canon EOS 300D. The price on that one is about 800GBP. I was thinking of buying that one if I don't by a laptop instead.

Here is some info:

Canon EOS 300D
6.3 Megapixel CMOS sensor
7-point wide-area AF
High-performance DIGIC processor
100-1600 ISO speed range
Compatible with all Canon EF lenses and EX Speedlites
PictBridge, Canon Direct Print and Bubble Jet Direct compatible – no PC required
 
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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:13 am

Just been researching digicams for my Dad - if you can stretch your budget a bit, I'd suggest looking at either the Canon S1 IS (10x optical zoom, image stablised) at 327 on Amazon UK, or the very impressive Panasonic FZ10 - with a 12x f2.8 Leica optical zoom (420mm equivalent) also image stablised -345 on Amazon UK.

These still suffer to some degree from shutter lag, but that's going to be the case for anything under the £500 mark - otherwise these 2 offer a lot for the aviation photographer at a relatively good price - the lens on the Panasonic in particular is a remarkable piece of work.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:48 am

In my experience you need to buy a model that has a fast time between first pressing the shutter button and image capture - commonly known as shutter lag. This will be the one thing that causes you to miss shots.


To be honest you gradually adjust to such shutter lag and begin to compensate for it.I actually found using a camera without shutter lag again after 2+ years of using my Olympus 2100 difficult for the first day or so as a result!
 
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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:16 am

i would recommend the HP Photosmart R707, it has a very good 24X zoom, 5 million megapixels and takes a very good shot.

If you go to the right place its under £199
 
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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:27 am

The Olympus C765UZ. 4 megapixels, 10x optical zoom - £242 at Amazon + £30 for an extra 128mb xd card = £272!!
 
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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:59 am

Willo, I checked the Amazon site but can't find it. Can you provide me with a link?

Horus

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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:42 pm

Hows the sony 3.2 for taking pics and gettign them on here
 
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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:42 pm

Hi All,

I am so glad to have moved from the point-and-shoot style digital camera. My older Airliners.net shots (search for pre April 2003 and my name), were taken with a Sony DSC-S85, which at the time was second from Sony's top of the line.

The Sony DSC-S85 is a fantastic day-to-day camera. The quality is fantastic, but with 4MP and 3x zoom, shutter lag - it's not a spotting tool. Actually it's amazing how crippling it is.

Moving to the Canon 10D DSLR, I had to spend a lot more (and edit a lot more as well), but the end results speak for themselves. It's opened up aviation photography to me.

My advice - don't worry about budget. Spend more than you really can justify at the time, because I thought I would regret spending as much as I did and every day thank myself for doing so.
Worth every cent!!!!
(Mind you, I would now not regret spending money on new L lenses)

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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:45 pm

Now I do NOT want anything too fancy or too expensive

That is the crucial sentence here. The Canon and Nikon DSLR's are fantastic camera's but for a lot of us they are way over budget and specification. Horus, there are "point and shoot" digitals that will do what you want, at the price you can afford and to a high enough quality to get on A.net - you can always upgrade later. Of course, like everything in life, the old saying " you get what you pay for" is particularly true and there will be a downside like the shutter lag and maybe durability. I'm sure you'll find something and I look forward to seeing the results soon.

Andrew Scott

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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:04 am

I agree with Willo, the Olympus C-765 and C-770 with 38-380 zoom lens give remarkable results and complement my two Canon 10d's. I have found the Panasonic FZ10 to have trouble focusing on fast moving aircraft.

Kevin
 
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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:51 am

Willo. I am seriously considering going for the Olympus C765 (you recommended). Just a few questions:

1. Can you provide me with the link for the £30 128mb xd card
2. Can such a camera produce photos of high quality (i.e. good enough to be easily accepted into the A.net database)?
3. Does this camera accurately capture fast moving objects like a plane taking off?
4. What is the difference between manual and automatic focus?

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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:10 am

Horus

here's the link for the xd cards

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006S4EW/qid=1092431147/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-2597406-9991638

I have emailed you with some other info


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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:56 am

Thanks for the email Willo. I've replied to it...with a few more questions

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RE: Which Digital Camera (UK)?

Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:26 pm

Horus,

You need a little practice for fast moving objects like aircraft. The problem with point-and-shoot is that you can not take as many shots of a plane moving quite fast at once as a DSLR does.

However, the quality of these cameras are excellent for their value. The C-765 would be ideal because of its powerful 10x optical zoom. Also, you can enhance your photos by adding filters if you see the need to do so.

Hope you buy it. It is really so much fun. Enjoy.

Best regards.

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