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B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:26 pm

I found B767-200 is one of the hardest plane to get the rego on your side shot. YOu have to do it from an (rear) angle, then it is not 100% side on, I am talking about those 762 have rego got covered by the relatively large wing span such as UA, QF etc (not like AA762s)

Is any other planes a pain in the butt like the lovely 762s?

Subject intend to only slide side on shooters.
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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:28 pm

KLM 744 new c/s, terrible to shoot at 50mm Smile

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:32 pm

wow that was a quickie  Smile

Beside that, I just got all my AMS k64 back after 3 weeks, oooooooo....lot of horizontal stabilizer got clipped off, seems to be Kodak mounting cover rather a large area than my Fuji mount. I open the cardboard mount, the hori. stab. is there!! A pain in the butt to scan those full frame slides too. I found looking at the new slides returned from kodak much more joy than shooting digital  Big grin

Sorry Jan  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:32 pm

My beloved SP's are the same... sometimes you have to settle for a slight rear shot  Angry

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:34 pm

On a full frame slide, especially if it is slightly not level, you don't have much room to adjust without cropping off things....

I just found out I have a great shot of the Sudan/Flyair Turkey A300 (with JAS hybrid and the evil eye on the tail), and it was so tightly done and I have no room to adjust.  Sad

I have to learn shoot less full frame soon

The one from LAX turned out real well, real blue sky! especially that N163AT Joe  Big thumbs up
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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:34 pm

Sam,
you clipped them again????? Never mind the trading then..  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:40 pm

Sam, yes Fuji fullframe is easy. Kodak fullframe, whole other story Big grin

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:43 pm

It just a disease in my blood and vein everytime I see a hot plane I try to squeeze it into the frame as much as I can !!! Full Frame Action shot  Big grin

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:50 am

roush air racing 727-100 (N502MG, and 503MG for that matter) have the reg right behind the trailing edge of the wing root....had to shoot it from slightly rear...this is best i could do kneeling down...standing up the wing blocked the reg

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i agree with you tim, those KLM 744s in the new paint are a pain!  Big grin

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:07 pm

One doesn't have to be a "slide side shooter" to know about this problem!

762's and 74L's are the most troublesome when it comes to getting a good side on shot with the registration visible!

I know Frank always had trouble shooting the 762's for this exact reason!

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:45 pm

Sorry Craig, slide shooting and digicam shooting ain't exact the same. Hence I try to direct this to only slide people and those people understand this better than anyone else (with no offense to digicam guys). On slide shooting, espcially, the rego showing clearly in side on position is highly sought after, for collection, trading, selling and many reasons. On digital personally I don't find there's a lot of principles around, I will go for slides for close side on and digital for tele side on, actions, artistic etc.

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:18 pm

I think (and correct me if I am wrong) Craig's point was that if the reg is hidden behind a wing or whatever, it doesn't matter if you are shooting film or with a digital. It is still hidden regardless.

Slide shooters don't have a monopoly on straight on side shots. Your's may be worth more or sell, but you get my point.  Smile
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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:23 pm

Hi Bronko, your point is well taken by me.

But,
I direct this thread to the interest of slide shooting people, primary reason is they understand what I am saying the BEST and they know in side on position which A/C is hard to get it right. Believe me, I genuinely want to direct this message to slide shooters, on digital, I ain't care too much on the rego thing than slides does, but get the rego in is always better.

But again, Craig got his right to express his feelings on this public forum.
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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:29 pm

I seem to agree with Mr. Murray very seldom but in this case

One doesn't have to be a "slide side shooter" to know about this problem!

i do
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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:36 pm

May be I forgot my point, I direct this thread to the interest of slide shooters, because that's where my interest is. But I didn't mean ALL digital guys didn't know the problem.


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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:41 pm

I seem to remember a time when I shot only prints and slides and getting a visible rego in a side on shot was always important to me and it still is when I do a similar shoot using a digital camera.

Medium isn't what defines a registration being visible or not..... I'm glad this point is understood from my original comment. Slide, print, digital getting that rego in on the abovementioned aircraft can be a deadset pain in the arse!

Explain how a side on shot is different slide vs print/digital anyway? The talent to get it exactly right to one individuals own personal standards is exactly the same is it not when using SLR/DSLR? Therefore I think the medium in use to be irrelevant in this question.

Strikes me as a little self indulged to think that only a slide shooter/collector has any idea about problems unique to photographing a certain aircraft.

Glad to see that from time to time Peter we can agree, let's not make it a habit mate  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:44 pm

You're right Craig  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Medium isn't what defines a registration being visible or not

But I intend to ask my question to the slide shooters, mainly because almost every single slide shooter care about the Rego being visibile in the shot. Some digital guys just won't as I know it myself! I thought the slide guys would care much more on the rego thing than the digital guys. Having said that, I didn't mean ONLY slide people are aware of the problem.  Smile

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:17 am

L-1011s were notorious for this. You have a perfect example yourself, Sam...


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I don't mind standing slightly behind the wingline to ensure the registration is visible. I hate glare on the fuselage even more than a non-visible reg, and I will adjust my position to "hide" the glare behind a wing, or in a door, for a better photograph.

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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:55 am

Sometimes you have to choose whether you accept the glare on the fuselage or a covered registration - I even had to accept both on this one (you don't have the opportunity to shoot this beauty too often):


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At least you don't need the registration to identify the plane!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Other planes that are difficult are Alitalia's and Scandinavian's MD-80, Iran Air's Boeing 747SP which has to shot from far behind to make the registration visible and Lufthansa's newly painted Canadair RJs.


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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:45 am

Terry

Yes, haven't photograph L1011 for ages and forgot about their existance!!!!

That Orient Thai one was a pain, not just the plane position, also the security guard won't let me stand any further, that was about 30-35mm if correct...wish I can do better then.

Frank, thanks for pointing out, this is very interesting,

Also Almost All American Airlines plane are a pain to get the rego, coz they're all in dark blue and looks very dark.
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RE: B767-200 Hardest Plane To Get The Rego Right

Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:48 am

Sam, Terry,

I seem to remember America West 757s, notably Teamwork cls, that were hard to get the reg's visible, same goes with TransMeridian 727s currently and certain 777s where you'd have to be just aft of center.

I think that sometimes, when shooting slides side on/gear split, etc., the reg. can be blocked partially but only when the color scheme is a one off, like Teamwork was, the Arizona Cardinals 757 or a Disney 747. If it's a common airliner, like a Continental MD-80, where the reg. is down low, then you'd have to take it slightly forward or aft...I prefer forward of course!

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