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Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:35 pm


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There have been quite a few from there but this beats them all so far.
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:51 pm

How exactly does one achieve an angle like this?
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:53 pm

SUPERB SHOT! let us all look like small boys ....

Robin

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:07 pm

Step 1: Charter Cessna

Step 2: Lots of booze

Step 3: "Look how close we get YOWWEEE!!!"

Step 4: Sober up a little

Step 5: Upload
And all at once the crowd begins to sing: Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:18 pm

Just amazing...wonder how Daniel know the D and D brothers  Big grin
Keep em coming  Big thumbs up

P.S. I think anyone can do a charter and flyover, it is down to a matter of luck if you can catch something good like a 747 rotate under your plane. That dosen't always happen, the chance we estimated is 20% or so. Also you need the perfect timing factor, i.e. sometimes you get the 747 pass right under you, sometimes you get the plane coming up towards you (like in this photo) and sometimes you get the 747 going towards the pacific ocean

Sam

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:37 pm

Brilliant shot, I am sooo jealous.

As to answer (once again) how it was done, in heavily controlled zones, to go to one airfield close to a large airport, the pathway is often... right above the large airport - flying right over the runways means you are unlikely to bother approaching or departing flights.

We have such a patchway here if we want to go to Lyons Bron from the east, we have to overfly LYS runways at exactly 2000 Ft QNH.


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Comments of those pictures (so you don't have to click on them Smile/happy/getting dizzy ) will say : On our way from Lyon Bron back to Chambery. The exit path eastwards out of Bron takes us over LYS, while flying at 2000 ft QNH. Flight Path out of Bron is usually right overhead LYS, however, due to departure in progress (note the aircraft holding short of 08L), the ATC asked us to transit south of the installation, giving me a full overview opportunity.

Unfortunately, LYS does not really have the same traffic as LAX... and at that time, I did not have the same camera as I have now.
I'm supposed to fly solo there tomorrow. Rhaa, how are you supposed to take a picture when holding your aircraft at a level altitude ?

cheers,

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:29 pm

Sam you have been beaten Big grin

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:37 pm

Let's keep it a healthy competition Tim, seeing those great shot just motivate you futher  Big grin

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:52 pm

Holy crap man, that shot is rediculous. I have to get with Derek and Duncan next time- this is nuts man.  Big grin


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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:24 pm

This one is "nuts", when we think everything is already made we got this!!!

Luis
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:53 pm

"P.S. even from AMS we get new angles from time to time"

Luis what is that supposed to mean?

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:56 pm

even from AMS we get new angles from time to time

Is this in anyway related to this thread?
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:02 pm

In 6-7yrs of visiting this website that has to easily be one of the top five photos ever uploaded.

I've never been a big fan of all those damn St Maarten's shots in the "Top of all time" category anyway. But this sort of shot easily becomes very famous simply through the amount of effort and skill (luck!) put in to achieve the end result.

Daniel you have achieved something hardly any of us will ever experience and you have caught it in a most superb manner. Sell the pants off that one and relish in the praise you deserve.

Your work consistently speaks for itself!

One of the top five shots of all time here at airliners.net? I think so!

(Peter, don't tell me we agree again!!)

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:03 pm

No, it's not related. When I wrote about everything being made, AMS came to my mind, no big deal.

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:12 pm

Ok thanks Luis Smile

How about picking LHR next time Big grin

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:16 pm

LHR still gives those 27L striking climbings by 747's Big grin

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:19 pm

hehe LOL Smile]

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:46 pm

i'm going to LAX in a few months, where do i hire a cessna from?

that's the cream of the crop that shot, i nearly wet my pants when i saw that!
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:22 pm

 Nuts I was like that when I saw the shot
I'm right now...
I'll still be every time I see that shot again!

Great shot Daniel!!

seeing those great shot just motivate you futher
Sam: I can hardly wait to see your extra motivated shots very soon!! Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:55 pm

Thanks for the nice comments guys.
It was really a treat to take this picture. It all comes together then: skill, the right equipment and of course some luck.
First our shoreline request was turned down by ATC but after we landed in Hawthorne we got the clearance. Fortunately we were right in time for the 744.

Daniel
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:32 am

A simple stunner... and I know why you mentioned the Space Shuttle taking off, too  Big grin Looks just great! I'm jealous!

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:13 am

Simply stunning man!

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:24 pm

Hi Daniel!

I'm speechless, what an amazing shot this is!
Shame we didn't meet at FFD/FAB back in July.

Guess your average views will finally be better than mine....... Big grin

Tschüß
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:59 pm

One of the best shots I've ever seen. Simply amazing!

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:34 am

Gerhard,

your average views are still higher than mine...
too bad we didn't meet in FAB/FFD.

thanks for all your nice comments concerning my picture guys!

Daniel
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:35 am

GREAT! ONE of the BEST pics on a.net!!!!!!!!
WOW!!!!!!! Congrats Daniel!!!
Holy Sh*^...
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:05 am

I nominate this for Shot Of The Year, by far one of the best and most interesting pics I've seen in a while.

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:11 am

So totally my desktop background from about 30 secs after I first saw it.

Magnificent!
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:21 am

Get real. This thing looks like a Space Shuttle.
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:34 am

Wait. Daniel. You're a teen?

Oh, my.

I hope you don't assume that topping this shot will be easy once you "mature".

Thanks for blowing us all away.
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:21 pm

Wait a minute...you guys trying to tell me that this masterpiece was photographed by a teen? UGHHHH...We can't even take hin out for a beer....

just razzing you Daniel.........

As far as I know, you and Sam and a just handful of others have made this photo!

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:33 pm

Well Daniel now I know what your up to when your not visiting Heathrow getting up close and personal with JAL 747-400s that's different!
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:42 pm

Yeah us teens can shoot some good stuff  Smile Allthough I am techinacally not a teen anymore, but still not drinking age... (20)

Great shot Daniel!
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:59 pm

I think in my case, and Daniel's case. The real credit goes to the pilot who have flown us, and he is the real man having done this kinda shoot 1000 times, without his help, there will be no such photos. This man is the BEST photographer I have ever known!

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:14 pm

So Daniel and Wietse have the 2 best shots of 2004 so far......AND their age probably does not add up to mine (39)...ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..reality and depression set in  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Congrats to both...

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:49 pm

It's not a bad thing to be young AND in Germany you're allowed to drink/buy beer from the age of 16!
And of course Sam is right, the real credit for these pictures goes out to our pilot, without him and his flying skills we wouldn't have any pics of this kind on a.net. Thank you D.!

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:52 pm

Yeah, being young is great. In Holland legal drinking age is 16 as well. I was referring to US regulations. I might just arrange a flight when I go to LAX.
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RE: The LAX Shot

Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:56 am

I've been thru a couple threads and I still haven't seen what lens he used, on what camera. Was it a 400 on a 1.6x-magnification camera? Or was it longer than that?
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:28 am

How do you find such a pilot who can do this for you? Is it just a friend with a Cessna who likes to fly or a professional pilot that you rent? That seems expensive for a flight that may or may not get you a shot that you can even use.
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My Guess

Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:12 am

Sam Chui said his shots were taken with a 400 mm on a 1.6-magnification camera, cropped 20%-- which means cropped to 80% of full-frame, right? I've decided Daniel Werner must've used even longer-- I'm guessing 600 mm, if the camera was a 1.6x and it's not cropped. He was offshore; I'd say at least 8000 ft west of the west end of the runway, with the camera pointed 16-17 degrees below horizontal.

Why not closer? The problem is the apparent runway width on the image is only about 6% wider at the bottom than at the top-- so the ground at the top of the frame is only about 6% farther away from the camera than at the bottom.

Wonder what ISO he used, and what shutter speed. How much help is image stabilization when you're tracking an object moving steadily across your field of view?
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:56 am

My shot looks way further because the Cessna was still a distance away from the 747 rotating, and we can only settle with 3/4 angle and from a bit far away. If you did absolutely right, deadhead on like Daniels, you won't need more than what I used for a perfectly good shot! I always have ISO200 , thats min. for Nikon  Big thumbs up
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:27 pm

Daniel,
What lens?????????????????????????---------cool shot------------???????????
Thanks,
We bow to you young man...

Mark
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:49 am

I`m wondering how long this will be allowed!!

Till the first accident I think !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:06 pm

Truly amazing shot!!!  Wow! And I thought Sam's were good... (well they still are, but this one takes the cake)

Jeez, in how many situations can you possibly get a head on shot of a 744 retracting it's gear!?

That photo should be on my desktop for a good while yet.

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:55 pm

So has the lad said what lens yet?

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:11 pm

sorry for not answering earlier, I was away over the week-end.
Image was taken with my D60 and a 100-400 IS L lens.

This is what the EXIF data says:

Date/Time: 2004:08:02 14:06:41
Shutter speed: 1/640 sec
Aperture: 7.1
Exposure mode: Program
Flash: Off
Metering mode: Evaluative
Drive mode: Continuous
ISO: 100
Lens: 100.0 to 400.0 mm
Focal length: 400.0mm
Subject distance: 112 m
AF mode: One-shot AF
Focus point: [Center]
Image size: 3072 x 2048
Rotation: none
Image quality: Fine
White balance: Cloudy
Saturation: Normal
Sharpness: Normal
Contrast: Normal
Custom Functions:
CFn 2: Shutter release: AE + AF; AE button: AF lock
CFn 4: Tv/Av and exposure level: 1/3 stop
CFn 11: Menu button return position: Previous (top if powered off)
CFn 12: SET button function when shooting: Change ISO spe

Daniel

 
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:21 pm

Thanks for the info Daniel!!!
Congrats again on the most unique photo here in many, many years!!!
ALSO, SAM......Great photos....
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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:12 am

How come it says "subject distance 112 meters"?

How much of a crop? D60-- is that a 15.1 mm by 22.7 mm sensor?

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RE: Right Into Your Face

Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:19 am

Tim,

The subject distance is flawed all the time... It is not correct at all. I always have problems with it.

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