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Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:30 am

I don't have any specific topics, but I have a few thigns that I just wnat to talk about with you, my aviation photography buddies.

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I had a dream last night that I was at someone's house (looked like Art Brett's house), and there were a few people over, one guy with a Canon 10D. He said he was getting messed up images and thought that his viewfinder has some dust in it. Well, you know how dreams are, turns out I went to clean it for him and I accidentally wiped down his sensor by accident with my t-shirt and scratched it all up. I gave it back to him and said it really was bad, hoping he wouldn't notice that I scratched it all up. Thankfully, he didn't kick my ass.

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I haven't taken a picture of a plane since July 14th when I got back from my LAX-DEN-LGA trip.

I miss taking pics. The weather kinda sucks for it though. Too hazy over here and I just feel that if I got a shot with good composition that it wouldn't be athat quality that it could be had I shot it in nicer weather, and therefore not being the artistic expression that I want to convey.

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As you may have read in the other thread, I got my new flash and i'm so excited to use it more. I've had several up close and indoor opportunities in the past that I could have gotten good shots from, but jsut wasn't technologically prepared, until now.

Now that I've learned how to use it, I need to go back to the Intrepid Museum, the American Airpower Museum and more to catch up. A whole new world has opened up for me because of the 550EX.

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What's goin on in your world?

-Phil
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:36 am

"What's goin on in your world?"

Remember the conversation we had at lunch the day you were in Denver? About photo opportunities other than shooting aircraft? I've been all over it since then. There is money out there, no where near the airport, and lots of it. Go to where the money is, and they will throw it at you!

Sorry to hear you scratched Art's sensor... (j/k)

-Jeff
 
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:37 am

I am going to use my camera to fight "The Man" this afternoon.

Look at this photo.



Now... at first glance, did YOU see the "No Parking" sign? I didn't. Got a ticket. I printed this and will be showing it to the judge.

Me and my D60. Fighting injustice the world over.

Sorry Phil. No camera dreams for me. (Get help.)
 
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:51 am

Jeff,

Actually, I've been doing some stuff for models and stuff latley. That's fun and it's decent money, but it's just not my passion.

A gentleman I know who is a millionaire tells me that I'm a good photographer but that "you're too smart for photography, you won't get rich doing it." This man obviously has no idea what passion is. I don't expecting to get rich doing aviation photograhy, but I love it.

Time has been a problem for me lately, but I do want to get more involved in other kind of phtogoraphy, too, like we talked about over lunch that day.

Hope to hang out with you more again, Jeff!

-Phil
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:54 am

hahaha, I should certainly get help, Will, huh?

Yo should see the parking signs here in NYC. You'll have a polle with seriously about 7 of those small parking signs explaining all different kinds of rules and circumstances over whether you can or can't park in that spot. Days, times, who you are, what kind of car and so forth. Signs hanging for the smae length as the ads on that telephone pole in your photo.

Good luck with the ticket. Keep us posted!

-Phil
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:01 am

Phil,
I understand what you mean by having a passion for something. And i'll agree with your friend, you probably won't get rich in terms of money pursuing aviation photography, or many other types for that matter. But you will see the world and all the things in it in ways other people won't. I don't put a price on that kind of satisfaction. Shooting sports well has really been a challenge, much more so then shooting aircraft has ever been. I think the experience in learning this type of photography will do nothing but good for me.

Bill, Good luck with 'Da Man' don't let him keep 'Homey down'. lol...

Jeff
 
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:32 am

What's goin on in your world?

Photography wise I am really getting into shooting wide angle. Its pretty much the only lens I am using the past few weeks, getting close and wide makes for some cool shots. I nailed some C17's the other day, those look particulary good wide  Big thumbs up
 
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:46 am

...and therefore not being the artistic expression that I want to convey.

Convey to who? If you long to shoot airliners, by all means, go for it. You're not going to get another top of yesterday or a "check this shot out" thread just by thinking of the image. Last thing I remember, you were already close to the rated number shutter actuations on the 10D, so bust this body and maybe you'll have a 1D MkII in a few months time.

Maybe with a (camera) body like that, you'll have a reason to flex in your self-portraits.  Big grin

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In my world, my sister just picked up a replacement camera last night (obviously to my dismay). The flash on her Fuji Finepix 3800 didn't open anymore (it wasn't broken, it just didn't open), so I suggested the Canon S1 IS. She's a music journalist, not a photojournalist, so 10x optical and a cool look was all that mattered to her. Low and behold, my advice is taken and she now has a new toy.

I've been advised to bust my C740 and get a DSLR. Good idea, but there's one word that irks me. 'Backfire.'

My initial BH wish list is totaling a buttload including tax, so I'm all set. Just need the AmEx.

Dream wise, you motivated me to also think of the possibilities of a 550EX, and I can't wait to push the photographic envelope. You're stealing my ideas, man!


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Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:57 am

"You're stealing my ideas, man.."

LOl..ideas aren't stolen Futt, just acted on....

don't break the c740... it will make a great walk around camera once you get your 10d.
 
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:05 am

Phil,

That is one dream that we all would not like to see come true!

Just four days ago I received from Hong Kong my new lens AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED-IF and SB800 flash and you can imagine how excited I am to use them. The flash is such a huge leap forward in technology compared to the SB28 as everything is automated as soon as it is attached to the camera they work well together.

This is like a dream come true to me as so many years ago when my daughter was part of a children's ballet show I was using a manual flash and long telephoto lens from the bacony at the back of the theater to get some photographic memories. I had to calculate the guide number and bracket either side and then wait for the film to be processed. With this new lens and flash set up all I would have had to do was point compose and shoot and then check the result on the screen. I can now spend more time on composition rather than the mundane bit of actually working out if the photo will be recorded. Thank goodness for technology advancement by Nikon, Canon and whoever else.

I have some aviation shots in the q and this one on myaviation using the new lens at AKL.


MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Colin Hunter



I agree with you I now want to go back to some of the places I have been and reshoot some photos with the new flash and or new lens just received.

Cheers,
Colin
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:10 am

What's goin on in your world?

Photographically speaking I am getting into sports, events and simple people candids with my flash. (at night) I make a challenge of it to shoot as many great sportsman/women and DJs I can. So far I am pretty succesful in that  Smile

At the moment I am eagerly awaiting my strap, bounce thingie and cord. I cant wait to experiment with those things.
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:43 am

I'm in the same boat as you Wietse. I might go to B&H tomorro and pick them up myself.
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:00 am

What's goin on in your world?

I came back from my vacation 2 weeks ago, now, the images are edited, uploaded and doing well ( you remember the 340 in the top of 24/48hrs yesterday?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )

We have no exciting traffic at INN during these months, so I want to shoot other things.

Lately, I fell in love with long night exposures... such as 30secs at night of highway traffic, etc...

I would like to do some sports photography as well, but my problem is how to get to the places the other photographers are...
E.g. when we've a soccer match here, I won't get access like all the other "professional" photographers have - and to be honest, I have no idea where to ask for getting acess...  Insane
Any help on that? Would really like to do some sports photography.

cheers,

Florian
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:11 am

Your absolutely right Phil, its been tough shooting around here lately, what's been keeping busy is editing my many photo's from the LA trip and shooting a lot of Landscape stuff. Coming up in the next few weeks we have the U.S. Open a lot of great Photo opportunities there.



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Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:11 am

I would like to do some sports photography as well, but my problem is how to get to the places the other photographers are...

If you are serious about this, try visiting small matches, in amatuer stadiums. Access is much easier there and it lets you build up a great portfolio. And that is useful for when you are trying to get access.
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:42 am

Florian,
Practice around the 'little tykes' fields. They are just as much of a challenge, the access is excellent, and the parents will always want prints. Be careful how you market them though, as you can get in a lot of trouble putting children's pictures up on the internet without permission.

Work your way up to high school, and adult leagues, maybe submit some of the photos to your local paper, after that, it's just a matter of time.

-Jeff
 
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:49 am

What's going on in your world?

I'm discovering what most of you have known for a long time: the more I have, the more I want.

And right now, I covet Ryan Umphrey's equipment.

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RE: Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:02 am

"I had a dream last night that I was at someone's house....accidentally wiped down his sensor by accident with my t-shirt and scratched it all up. Thankfully, he didn't kick my ass."

That's funny Phil. When I woke up this morning my sensor on my 10D was all scratched up. Someone's going to get their ass kicked!!!

Bill
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:24 pm

No, Bill (as per my dream), it was already messed up, remember? That's why you asked me to clean it. Sorry I couldn't help!  Big grin

-Phil
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Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:23 pm

Hmm, what's going on in my world?

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Haven't got a shot in the database since my trip to St. Maarten in mid April. I'm returning there on March 20, 2005, so maybe I'll manage to up my number of photos in the database to 10. Yes, 10.

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Due to my lack of aviation photography, I've been doing some other photography which I'm really enjoying.... to save yourself the loading I'll post some links. Should be quick to load.

Seagull enjoying ocean view
http://img5.imagetown.net/16032467.jpg

Closeup!
http://img5.imagetown.net/27320672.jpg

Shot of the day.
http://img5.imagetown.net/86881790.jpg

Waterfall
http://img5.imagetown.net/71705681.jpg

Long Island Sunset
http://img5.imagetown.net/30775187.jpg

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Heading to LAX in a week.  Nuts Taking a flying lesson, first one for that matter, before I leave.
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What's going on in my world? A LOT! Can't remember a summer this packed.

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RE: Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:21 pm

Haven't done much shooting lately, I am only trying to nail unique/interesting subjects, experimenting with closeups and different angles. I am patiently waiting for winter so I can try getting a nightshot of a plane with snow on the ground.

Shooting An-124 tomorrow. I hope to get into the cockpit as well.

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Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:25 pm

I really want to make some money from AV photo. Our Boss at DEN gives little presents and such to the workers and sometimes the people, so I talked to her about taking photos and making postcards for either the people who work there, or the general public to collect... might be a neat idea!
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:30 pm

Thanks Wietse and Jeff, I'll try it out as soon as possible!

cheers, Florian
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:20 am

Since the DCA/IAD trip, I have spent the past few weeks contemplating all meanings of the word "annoying", and Futterman's face always seems to appear. Big grin

Work has been hellacious lately, so not much has been going on with my camera. I hope to be using a new 80-400VR within a few days, so I'm getting geared up for some good spotting in the coming months.

I'm flying to LAX in a few weeks for one day of work and a few days of photography. Since I couldn't make AI2004, I'd really like to meet some of the locals and see the good photography locations. I was very impressed with the photos taken by some of my fellow NY'ers during AI2004. I'll be available on Thursday, September 9 and Friday, September 10. Send me an e-mail if you will be around one or both of those days.

Josh
 
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Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:26 am

Since the DCA/IAD trip, I have spent the past few weeks contemplating all meanings of the word "annoying", and Futterman's face always seems to appear. Big grin

...and my parents wonder if you call your wife nearly as much as you call me...  Big grin
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Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:08 am

Futterman needs to go outside and get a nice big breath of fresh air... The other day I was talking to him, and when I said *shooting heroin*

he said:

*The first thing that comes to mind is taking pictures of heroin*


HAHAHA
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Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:37 am

I just go back from living in Southern Germany as an exchange student for all of July. Man I miss drinking legally. Oh well, it's good to be home.
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Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:55 am

Drinking's not everything...and if it is, you should get that problem resolved. Don't worry, I'm not trying to personally attack you. I just hate to see people get roped in to such a vice at a young age.

Anyway, about my world - Just got my Nikon N75 yesterday. Burned a roll of Kodak Max 400 (yuk) and the pictures came out ok. Right now I'm burning a roll of Fuji Superia X-TRA 400 (good for 400 stuff). When I get paid on Friday I'm going to be buying some real film to work on. Camera seems to be working out well. It is a lot cheaper in quality that the Nikon N8008 I've been using...however it does have nicer features. AF & AE isn't bad, but there's nothing to be impressed with, as far as I can tell yet. I still need to get a camera case, camera bag, polarizer and battery grip for the N75 before it becomes a camera that I take everywhere.

Speaking of everywhere, hopefully everything will work out for the trip to San Diego next week where I'll be hanging with Mr. Nowak driving around, climbing fences at SAN and grabbing pics of jets and smooches from f/a's.

Also trying to iron out the one last thing that I failed on my last stage check for my helicopter pilot license. If I retest successfully tomorrow then I'll be scheduling my check ride.
 
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:30 pm

KC7,

Don't worry, I just miss being able to drink a good German beer because it tastes great.

Florian, if you have any siblings or friends that play sports try photographing them playing. You'll get valuable practice and pictures of them playing can make good gifts.

Erik
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:16 pm

Hmm... what's going on?

Found out about a week ago that I probably won't be able to obtain an FAA medical certificate without a near-impossible-to-get waiver.  Sad Soothed myself with a trip to St. Maarten where I met fellow A.netter Ian Atkinson and came to the realization that I kinda hate my job right now. Spent the rest of the week drinking Mai Tais at the Sunset Beach bar and fantisizing about doing ANYTHING else for a living. Also got a couple of those famous SXM shots--don't know if I dare upload any, but as a planespotting destination the island is a lot of fun.

Also found out I'm starting to actually sell some stock shots I took, which was cool. There's no way I'll show any sort of positive income from photography this year, but I can now start deducting expenses.

Back to the grind tomorrow--argh.
 
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:46 pm

What is up with my world?

Well...Slide wise, I've shot a whopping 2 rolls of film on 2 subjects since the LAX show...sad, but work has been quite busy as it usually is this time of year when the senior dispatchers take their vacations. No problem, have a good chunk of time off starting in September...only issue, baby is due in October so traveling will be light to say the least!

Awaiting 20 rolls of K64 and an upgrade to my short zoom lens for the first time in 10 years of shooting with the Canon, a 3.5 USM II 28-105mm lens, not Image Stab as I seriously doubt there's much difference other than the price when shooting on the ramp or in the flight deck. By the way, Adorama is .50 cheaper on K64 right now vs. B&H...thought I'd note that.

Had a dream I spoke to Gordon Bethune who told me there'd be furloughs in my office, but that he admired my confidence...still don't know what THAT dream meant...but probably has something to do with the baby coming.

May go to CVG on Friday, though the weather looks iffy there...hmm, what is CLT doing?

Cheers
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:57 pm

The weather was so nice today so my lady and I met up with Brian Futterman and went around LGA a bit and took some shots. The weather wasn't PERFECT, but it was the best we've had in a long time, and it had been quite a while since I took any plane pics, especially here in NYC.

The highlight of the day was when the following conversation went down:

Futterman: Don't you think the 757 kinda looks like a woman?

My Lady: I think maybe you need to masturbate more.


haha. Funny shit.

It was a good time has by all, and I can't wait to get out there and take more shots soon.

-Phil
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RE: Some Photography Babble

Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:20 pm

Futterman: Don't you think the 757 kinda looks like a woman?

My Lady: I think maybe you need to masturbate more.


Wow that's funny! Thanks for the laugh dude!

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RE: Some Photography Babble

Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:28 pm

HAHA

I don't know whether my respect rating is going to skyrocket or plummet because of this. sigh...lol

Thanks, Chewbacca.
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