wagz
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Badcenter Rejection Help

Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:07 am

Hi all,

I recently had a few photos rejected for badcenter (and may yet have more in the queue rejected for the same reason).

What is the critera for an aircraft not being centered. I cropped my shots to center the fuselage of the aircraft in a pretty much side-on shot. In such a shot the horizontal stab sticks out relatively far past the end of the fuse.

In my own opinion the fuselage is probably the highlight of the picture, so that's how I cropped it. If one goes by the rule of nose tip to back of horizontal stab, then it would be not centered. For referance, here is a shot just rejected for that reason:

http://www.simaholic.com/phl/8-28-900_N730SW_B737-700_WN.jpg

I've been cropping shots like this for a while and not had any real problems. Have the standrads on this changed?

Thanks.

Joe Wagner
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manzoori
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RE: Badcenter Rejection Help

Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:13 am

Joe,

I think what they're saying is there's too much space on the left, ahead of the nose and very little behind the aircraft.

Hope that helps!

Cheers

Rez
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DLKAPA
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RE: Badcenter Rejection Help

Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:14 am

My opinion: Badcenter, it is probably best to crop nose-tip to horizontal stab. Also, I think even if it was centered properly, it still looks like BadQuality and BadExposure. Looks grainy and way to overexposed.

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RE: Badcenter Rejection Help

Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:21 am

I think it fair to say that whilst this subject provokes several points of view, with respect to side-on type shots if you're going to include all of the horizontal stab then there should be a fairly similar gap between the nose and the edge, and the tip of the horizontal stab and the other edge. If you crop off the horizontal stab (and I admit some don't like to see that done, but it doesn't bother me), then the similar sized gaps should be between nose and edge and end of vertical stab and edge.

Andy
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RE: Badcenter Rejection Help

Tue Sep 07, 2004 4:33 am

Joe,

I just saw your signature. I don't know what happened...the 757 never called me back...  Big grin

However, the photo is BadCenter any way you look at it.


Futt

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wagz
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RE: Badcenter Rejection Help

Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:03 am

Ok, time to re-crop and reupload I guess.

DLKAPA, I'm using a Fuji S7000. I don't think it looks that bad. I just had worse accepted from the same day. It is a little bright, must have been the morning sun. I'm hopefully moving up to getting a Canon Digital Rebel / 300D soon so maybe things will improve.

Futt, you can thank Bryan Painter for that quote. He came up with it on the ride home last Saturday.

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RE: Badcenter Rejection Help

Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:24 am

I'm hopefully moving up to getting a Canon Digital Rebel / 300D soon so maybe things will improve.

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