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AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:14 am

It seems that AirAsia has stolen TK's (he is informed about this) first shot of 9M-AAR:


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They used it on their page at:

http://www.airasia.com/gallery/gallery.php?folder=aircraft&language=en&web=en

The other pictures there do seem to be taken by themselves judging the quality, the non-level, cut nose/tail, etc. However, it could be someone's! So watch out!
 
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RE: AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:18 am

How do you know they didn't pay for them?

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RE: AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:02 am

Staffan:

It seems that AirAsia has stolen TK's (he is informed about this) first shot of 9M-AAR:

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RE: AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:05 pm

Yes DLKAPA thanks.

TK is a friend of mine and he knows about this! He is trying to contact AirAsia.
 
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RE: AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:23 pm

Can an airline be accused of stealing a photo of their own property?
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RE: AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:14 pm

As far as I know it is still copyrighted. Any one else confirm this.
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RE: AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:21 pm

I believe the copyright still stands. Very nice photograph by the way.
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RE: AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:28 pm

if he took the photo from public property it is "HIS" shot. so definetel copyright violation ... , carriers are very often arguing : it is our plane, so is a photo of that plane also ours - THAT IS JUST WRONG!


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RE: AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:56 pm

if he took the photo from public property it is "HIS" shot. so definetel copyright violation ... , carriers are very often arguing : it is our plane, so is a photo of that plane also ours - THAT IS JUST WRONG!

It's actually not wrong. The laws may vary from country to country but in the USA, photographing a copyrighted work (in this case, the corporate livery of Air Asia) is considered reproduction of that copyrighted work and if Air Asia wanted to, they could sue you for copyright infringement. It doesn't matter if it's in a public place or not. Now, they'd probably lose, unless you actually managed to sell a few copies of the photo on this site, because non-commercial use of the photo (even posting it on the net) would probably be considered fair use. They'd also get a big PR black eye, which is the real reason why nobody ever actually sues over stuff like this. They're content to have the free advertising.

But technically, you are required to ask permission from the original copyright holder to photograph a copyrighted work. Obviously, nobody here ever does this so all the photographers here are risking C&D letters, all the time. The fact that Air Asia is using this photo, though, could be considered granting permission after the fact. So while it may not seem so given what photographers here get away with all the time, legally speaking their using the photo is actually a good thing.

Here's a page with a bit more info on this: http://www.photosecrets.com/p14.html

And a little more technical and detailed of an explanation, albeit not specific to photography (most copyright law is not specific to any one medium):

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter1/1-b.html
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RE: AirAsia Steals Photos!

Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:18 pm

Reminds me, when someone of Korean Airlines contacted me, asking about the usage of one of my pics. After my reply, of course with my price suggestion, I got an email asking me if I was allowed to take a pic of this Korean Airline aircraft. My answer was simply "yes, because ... (you know what to fill in)".

The nice Korean Airlines guy then replied with somehting along the lines of "I'll forward this question to our law department and you will hear from us." Sure!!! This was about 2 or 3 years ago ..... They probably used my pic and that's it.

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