dcrusafon
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Baddark...What Do You Think?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:39 pm

Hi all,

I would like to know what do you think about this picture. It has been rejected due to baddark and I would like to know if there is something to do...

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=DSC_2869RAMPAAEP.jpg

And for this one...the angle. How many degrees do I have to change? I like how it is Big grin

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=DSC_2314LVWGX.jpg

Thanks for you help!

DARIO
 
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RE: Baddark...What Do You Think?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:00 pm

Personally, I would not change anything in the first one. If the screeners didn't like it, just keep it for yourself. Show your friends, or whatever. But don't alter the photo from how reality actually looked. To me, it looks natural how it is. Not every airport is lit up like broad daylight at night. Just for kicks I opened it up in Photoshop to see what it thinks about the photo, and I ran an auto-color and it actually made the photo darker! I then manually checked the levels and yes, you have room to bump up the contrast if you want to (which has the effect of making it appear brighter), but I think it looks most natural and probably most realistic how it is.

As for the second, just turn the grid on in your photo editor. Align the horizon with the grid. You'll have to figure out how much by trial and error. Looks like somewhere between 1 and 2 degrees to me.
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RE: Baddark...What Do You Think?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:11 pm

Dario,
I think the quality of your shots is there. I like the light and color in your first photo; only problem is, there's really no subject. This image should get a badmotiv before a baddark, not to insult you or anything. I think if you could have focused on one plane taxiing in or something; that would have produced a winning photo (IMHO again). As for the second photo, I'm not sure if I see a problem in the angle -- unless you're talking about the angle at which you are from your subject. I prefer if you shot this photo from the plane's 2 o'clock instead, but then again, I am no expert.  Big grin

Once again, I think the quality is there, just try to pick your shots a little bit better. Good luck.

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RE: Baddark...What Do You Think?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:22 pm

Hi Dario
Have to agree with both.
The second one needs some CW rotation.
Use the grid function in PS and use the vertical surfaces on the distant hangars to line her up.
Did ou shoot the first one in a programme mode?
You probably need to shoot it in manual or a longer shutter speed to get some more light in.
Nice shot though and a good one for the collection.
Cheers
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dcrusafon
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RE: Baddark...What Do You Think?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:39 pm

Thank you for your opinions! It is good to have other opinions as for me all my picture looks great  Big thumbs up

I will look if I do have more picture at night focussing more a plane and we will see what happens.

Once again, thanks for your help!

DARIO
 
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RE: Baddark...What Do You Think?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:02 pm

Dario,

I know what you were trying to do in the first picture but as mentioned above there was no real subject. I know how hard it is to get a good angle on aircraft, especially if you are like me and have no access to the ramp.

I would say use these two examples as something to strive for, I also have Sony camera....your file hints at that, and if you email me direct we can go through some settings?


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You will see that the first one is more of a recent tail shot but if you have the Appature high, like i can only go to 8.0 on my 717, and set the shutter speed around 5 seconds... you will get bright lights like such. In the second picture there I tried to focus on the two asian aircraft, the 777 is getting most of the attention but allows for another aircraft into the picture.

As far as your second picture, its just needs to be rotated and should be accepted... I think there is an aircraft wing in the picture as well.... were you on an aircraft at the time?

Good luck with the night pictures,

Grant
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RE: Baddark...What Do You Think?

Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:48 pm

I could go on and say something, but Grant basically stated it all. He's probably the one to listen to, since he is one of the best at night photography.
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dcrusafon
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RE: Baddark...What Do You Think?

Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:57 am

I took the picture from the control tower outside...I wanted to make an overview from all the ramp.

The problem is that we were visiting friends in the control tower and I was quite hurry because the plane (the 737 of Pluna) was taking us to Montevideo and we had to pass the customs...And no tripod  Sad

The other problem: my wife...which doesn't undertand why people make picture to airplanes  Smile

The only night photo I have is this one but with tripod.

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Did you use one in the one you made?
What ISO did you used?

Thanks for all!

DARIO

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