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Photo Request From The NTSB...

Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:25 pm

Hi,

I've recently received an email from an NTSB investigator about a photo of mine of an aircraft which crashed a couple of days after I took the photo...the email came from an ntsb.gov email address and I googled the name to be sure that it is legitimate, and infact it is...he is the one in charge of the case of the crashed aircraft in question...the email doesnt specify any use for the photo, only that I send them to him...I've never received such a request before and I'm not too sure about what to do...any advice and suggestions would be much appreciated...

Thanks so much,
Greg
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:51 pm

I'd send it! Right away! It's a beautiful thing to help out the NTSB!!!
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:06 pm

This is one instance where I wouldn't feel good about a fee. Just my personal feeling.
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:02 pm

I'd say mail the raw and/or highest resolution unmodified picture you have, and ofcourse you may include a polite request to be informed of what the investigator is planning to do with it. Personally, if I were the photographer I would be glad to give them the non-exclusive right to use the photo in anything related to the accident, like the investigation itself and the resulting report(s).
 
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RE: A Question About Badpeople

Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:18 pm

Greg,
Could you share with us which photo that is? Thanks!

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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:59 am

It's not on a.net, unfortunately...its a rather terrible photo that I took from an aircraft as we taxied past it and only has any significance because of that a/c's fate...thanks again for your advice, I appreciate it!

Greg
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:23 am

Greg,
How did this guy see the photo if it was not on a.net?
 
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:36 am

It is on another site...I posted here because I feel l would get the best advice from here as you guys are the most experienced and know just about everything about anything with what to do...

Greg
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:45 am

What type of A/C is was it, where can we see it, how about a link.
 
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:05 pm

i'd send the picture. perhaps, somthing there might be relevant in the investigation. i wouldn't argue about compensation, govt agencies aren't likely to put them on websites. just ask that they credit ou if they ever do use it in any publication.
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:37 pm

Tell them you'll trade -- One of those nifty blue windbreakers with NTSB written on the back for use of the photo. I've gotten lots of t-shirt for photo trades, this should be no different.

Then again, they might be investigating you. Looking for proof that aviation photographers cause airplane crashes... an attempt to end the hobby.

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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:07 pm

Then again, they might be investigating you. Looking for proof that aviation photographers cause airplane crashes... an attempt to end the hobby.

scary thought, good idea on the trade though!!
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:36 pm

I hope the trade idea was a joke. We're talking about a photo of a crashed aircraft, and it sounds to me as if they're asking for it to directly assist in or support an investigation. (There's no other reason they'd need a "terrible" photo of an airplane taken from the window of another airplane - they could easily get a perfect photo of almost any aircraft if they just wanted to show what an aircraft looked like before a crash. There must be something they see in the photo.)

Give them the picture, no questions asked, no strings attached. If it's such a bad photo to begin with, I don't even see why you'd care what's done with it. Not every photo is worth defending to begin with, and if the NTSB is asking for it in relation to an investigation, I think you have a moral obligation to give it to them.
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RE: Photo Request From The NTSB...

Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:01 pm

Allright, all is said and done with, I sent him an attachment with the photo...also requested that if possible that my name be credited if used in a presentation or government publication...I got an acknowledgement that he received the picture fine, and no further questions so Im going to assume thats the end of the matter...

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20030718X01141&ntsbno=MIA03FA141&akey=1 -This is the crash report of the aircraft in question, Im sure if you googled the reg. you'd eventually end up at the picture, I'm hesitant to post a direct link as it may be against the rules here, Im not too sure...

Greg
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