FlightCheck
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Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:54 pm

Dear all,

I recently had a good day shooting at LHR on Thus 21st October 2004. The weather was perfect and there were lots of great aircraft to see.

Now I do use a Canon 1D MkII and 100-400L glass, so sometimes, when the light is right, I do not require a great deal of post image processing to get the results that I want.

The question I have is that having got the images home and on my PC, I sit down, crack open a can of John Smiths Extra Smooth bitter and begin to inspect my images, the ones that I like I tidy up in Photoshop CS. Now, sometimes (as I find this relaxing), I may spend an evening or two looking and editing my images while consuming my alcohol, but there may be the odd night that I may drink a little too much, say, having flattening 4 cans of bitter, then start on a bottle of red wine……

I feel that while the more I drink, the better my images look, and I may be able to enhance the composition, as my creative flair seems to be evoked. This is all great until I receive the e-mails from the screeners for my images as being rejected for been ‘baddirty’ and include the message ‘Dirt that finds its way into the final image can often be repaired by using the cloning tool available in most photo manipulation software’.

My alcohol consumption (and I do not feel, yet!!, that I have a drink problem) seems that on occasions, I do make elementary image editing errors, like not removing dust spots or not sharpening or getting the correct colour etc.

I was wondering if this is the case for any others?

Best Regards

Kevin Minter (now sober from last nights image editing session!!!)  Nuts


PS here are a couple of rejected examples:

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=a40-ld-lhr-km-211004.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=vh-oef-lhr-km-211004.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=vt-esn-lhr-km-211004.jpg

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LHSebi
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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:34 pm

Can you tell us what they were rejected for, because on the first shot, I see about 8 dust spots!

Sebastian
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Nubbins
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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm

I think the key here would be to send the screeners, before uploading, the same amount of alcohol you consumed...
 
FlightCheck
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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:49 pm

Hi,

All three rejection reasons were:

"The scan looks dirty. This message may also appear if there was dirt or scratches on the slide or negative. Dirt that finds its way into the final image can often be repaired by using the cloning tool available in most photo
manipulation software".

Kevin.

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sulman
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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:46 pm

Whilst alcohol will surely impair judgement and won't help your ability to check detail errors, I too like the odd tipple whilst editing & sorting images. Assuming you're not roaring drunk whilst doing it, the results should be okay  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I think the 'square eyes' phenomenon is more critical. You can spend so much time working images that your error-checking goes out and you make silly errors with dustspots, centreing, and levelling.

Gary Watt, who wrote the submissions guide, recommends taking a break from images you've edited and going back to them later. Not easy if you're incredibly impatient like me, but well worth it.

Cheers


James
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Woody001
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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:50 pm

Hi Kevin,
I can see the dust in the first image, bottom right.

The others I can't tell as my monitor at work is crap.

Have you cleaned the sensor since you got the camera..?

Ian.

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LHSebi
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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:47 pm

Maybe this will help. I took the liberty of playing around with the levels a bit, and then I circled the dust spots that I saw on a first glance:

http://www.soma-band.com/a40-ld-lhr-km-211004.jpg

The others have the dust on the same places, you just can't really notice them unless they are on the blue sky.

Hope this helps!

Sebastian
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Wanderer
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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:40 am

I like to think that alcohol aids the editing process.
I must admit that if I took a/c pics in 35mm and tried to upload the scans here as things (i.e. my scanner) are at the moment, I'd not stand a chance as my scanner is on its' last legs and the scans show it - despite cleaning and re-installation of software.
 
codeshare
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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:47 am

On second thought, you might see just baddoubles  Big grin

Dust on the sensor is a problem, not that big it can be eliminated. But it's better to have the sensor clean rather than edit all the spot out on the image.

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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:04 am

Kevin, you're not alone mate. But, in my case, I can admit I have a problem!! BTW, this gin is absolutely wonderful!
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RE: Can Alcohol Seriously Harm Your Postimage Editing?

Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:52 am

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