yegpix
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Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:19 pm

Just curious. Has anyone tried the firmware hack for the Canon Digital Rebel? If so, please share your thoughts and experience with this near to a 10D upgrade. Thanks, Kevin
 
jwenting
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:56 pm

LOL, "near to a 10D".
What a laugh. Just because the firmware can be hacked to have some of the capabilities of the 10D firmware doesn't suddenly give your camera the more advanced hardware that the 10D has like an improved light meter, shutter, sensor array, and probably a higher speed data bus.
And don't forget the higher quality construction, larger viewfinder, etc. etc. which sets a piece of plastic junk apart from a decent camera.
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Airplanepics
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:04 pm

And don't forget the higher quality construction, larger viewfinder, etc. etc. which sets a piece of plastic junk apart from a decent camera.

Did he ask for your personal opinion on the 300D? Plastic Junk yeh? Ive seen a lot of photos taken from 300D users that are so much better than 10D users.

Yes, the 300D may have less specs than the 10D, but to people who have just started photography (such as myself) it's all we need.

It may be a bit of plastic junk to you, but to us 300D users, it is a good quality camera that rivals the 10D in quality.

Please keep comments like that to yourself in future.

Simon Nicholls
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javibi
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:43 pm

Thanks, Jwenting, now I know that I am such a gooood photographer that I even manage to get some decent pics with a piece of plastic junk  Wink/being sarcastic

Cheers

j
 
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:11 pm

J,

Go smack yourself on the head with one of your cast iron Nikons please.
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:10 pm

etc. etc. which sets a piece of plastic junk apart from a decent camera.

Jwenting,

Are you serious?  Laugh out loud Plastic Junk?  Laugh out loud Now that is funny!  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud


but to people who have just started photography (such as myself) it's all we need.

The 300D was my first digital camera, yes, but, I am far from novice photographer (15+ Yrs).
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It suited me just fine. I am upgrading to the 20D, but, my 300D will still see some use.

Note: My 300D, although its made of plastic, is still scratch free, dent free, crack free after nearly one year of hard useage.

Regards,
Chad

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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:50 pm

Hey come on guys - we've made a small amount of progress, there is a dent in the armour. Mr Wenting normally trashes all things Canon (almost always without reasoned or construnctive justification, I have to say), but if you re-read his comments you will observe that whilst he still persists in hammering the 300D he actually implies that the 10D is "a decent camera." This is indeed a revelation coming from the aforementioned person - maybe there is hope for him yet! Big grin

Andy
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:33 am

Just remember...most people bash other peoples stuff because it's better than their own!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:51 am

I prefer the Fujifilm disposable which is my main camera body.

Signed,
Jwenting
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yegpix
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:19 am

Well, I must say I was a bit surprised to wake up this morning and see wild Wentings attack on the DREb. Especially when I was inquiring about the software change which adds 10D like "software" FEATURES Wenting! Had a few too many Heineken did we? I was merely inquiring cause one of the camera shop managers told me there was a firmware change available. LOL to all comments posted. Kevin
 
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:41 am

Jwenting........ let me think....... oh yes i remember him.......
It's the guy with NONE acceptance in the database, if i am correct.
So he must own the worst camera available on the market, or a very good one which makes you wonder about his own capabilities.  Confused

Back to more serious matters  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
The improved 300D software is not so much a "hack" but more something of a tweak as some of the options just need to be unlocked.
Just give it a try Yegpix, it won't harm you or your camera.


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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:15 am

it won't harm you or your camera.

but probably will void your warranty - I've not heard of anyone experiencing trying to have a hacked Drebel serviced, but I'd be very surprised if Canon didn't reset it to standard spec and charge you for the privalege ... or perhaps refuse to service it all together.

I would think very hard whether or not the benefits of the hack are worth the risk.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:30 am

On another forum I read a thread by a guy who had hacked his 300D and changed something in the menu that you aren't not supposed to change after hacking it... camera died. Don't know how the story ended though.

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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:25 am

"Did he ask for your personal opinion on the 300D? Plastic Junk yeh? Ive seen a lot of photos taken from 300D users that are so much better than 10D users."

LOL...nice. Your ride the guy for giving his opinon....then throw in your own two cents.....
 
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:21 pm

LOL...nice. Your ride the guy for giving his opinon....then throw in your own two cents.....

Isn't that what YOU always do in non_av? Big grin
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:45 pm

Of course it is....but I don't do it with the "CREW" Logo next to my name. Besides...what else is Non-Av good for if you can't have any fun in there...you can't have any fun!
 
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:36 pm

It is showing my firmware as 1.1.1, what is the next one up?
 
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:32 pm


LOL...nice. Your ride the guy for giving his opinon....then throw in your own two cents.....


These thing's just have to be done!

I see Jwenting hasn't bothererd to stick up for himself, again!

Simon Nicholls  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:58 pm

Hi all!

Well, I for one am using Wasia firmware and quite happy with it Smile
Version number on the menu still shows 1.1.1, but I now have a custom function menu with 17 customizable functions available 'à la 10D'.
The firmware itself it is quite easy to find, just look on google for 'Digital Rebel Tips and Tricks' and click on the first link that comes up... great info on that site as well.

Contrary to popular belief, it won't hurt your camera if you do the upgrade...the original firmware is still available from Canon, and you can always revert back to it if you ever need to...

Aviation-wise, you won't get much improvements from instaling it... you can use the SET button to change quality, prevent the shutter from firing when there's no CF card on the camera, and you can change the focus from One shot to AI focus.

For portraits it is invaluable... you get 1/200 flash sync speed, ISO 3200 for really gritty pictures, and the much needed Flash Exposure Control (FEC - for controlling the intensity of the flash between -2 and +2 stops).

All in all, it is a great upgrade for the camera. I've installed it in July, I think, and have never looked back since  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Regards,
Luis
 
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:29 pm

...the original firmware is still available from Canon, and you can always revert back to it if you ever need to...

Has anyone actually tried and tested this? Many firmware changes - even legit ones  Smile - are not reversable. I know this was the case with one of the Nikon scanners I owned.

Cheers,

Colin
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:24 pm

Hi Colin!

Your point was a cause of concern for me also...
I had read in Dpreviews foruns that it was possible to revert, so I decided to test it myself and it worked. I downloaded the original firmware and installed it... no more custom menus... the camera worked ok... so back to Wasia firmware I went...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

One thing you must be aware is that you must put all custom functions back to their original values before going back to Canon's legit firmware  Smile... quite easy if you read the instrutions on the site I mentioned. So you should be safe!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Regards
Luis
 
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:23 pm

Thanks Luis - always good to hear of real world experience in these things!

Cheers,

Colin
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yegpix
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:52 am

Thanks everyone. I just installed the Wasia firmware, and it worked great! Then I reverted back to the original Canon firmware, no problem! Then I just re-installed the Wasia firmware back due to the added features, no problems. The extra features will come in handy. I probably wouldn't have chanced it, but my warranty has expired so I figured "what the hell". Thanks to all for the feedback! Kevin.
 
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:00 am

Having used both, the 300D produced much better results than the 10D - My opinion! That said, I now have a 20D - This blasts both of em away!

I think we should applaud Canon for their 300D, dont see much in the competition field that produce the 300D results.
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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:51 am

dont see much in the competition field that produce the 300D results.

Really? The output of a D70 looks pretty good from what I've seen so far and the price is pretty keen... if not quite down to 300D levels.... maybe a Nikonian could contribute at this point?

I have to say whilst I do like the feel and weight of my 10D I've also had a fair old turn with the 300D and it's not as bad a camera as some folk make out. Let's face it, it's built to a price point and somewhere along the way a compromise or two had to be made. That said, at the end of the day in the right hands it has the capability to produce great pictures and makes a lot of people who wouldn't normally be able to afford an entry into the 'New' DSLR field very happy... end of story.

Quite why people feel the need to rag on this camera is beyond me.

Cheers!

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RE: Canon Digital Rebel Firmware Hack?

Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:59 am

Really? The output of a D70 looks pretty good from what I've seen so far and the price is pretty keen... if not quite down to 300D levels.... maybe a Nikonian could contribute at this point?

I contribute by totally agreeing. While just a toy I feel the D70 is an excellent choice in the $1000 range.

Mike

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