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Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:41 am

Hello all,

I now that this will have proberly have been discused befoe but i was wondering - with allthe great photos on A.net from LHR where do they get them from?

I know of the place called Myrtle Avenue but i do not know of any other places that you do not get moved on by Police.

I was wondering where was these photos were taken?
How do i get there?
Do you get hassel from the Police?


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Is there any other good places where you do not get moved on?

The second photo i now is near the Visitor Centre but where is this Actual Photo Spot?Are you allowed to Stand here?Do you get moved on?


I would love any tips,idears and Spots for Photography.

Thanks Very much

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:30 am

Jimmi,

The first shot is from the "Esso" garage on 27L. What you need to do is get a bus to the BA World Cargo Centre. I think it's the H30 or H32 (Memory ain't what she used to be Big grin).

It is then about 5-10 mins along the main road from the Cargo Centre.

The second shot is from a little spot along the 27R Perimeter road close to the Renaissance Hotel.

I have shot from both spots with no problem what so ever.

Cheers,

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:30 am

The CSA shot looks as if it was taken onside the airport permiter , in other words ramp access. I am not sure but try contacting the photographer. Yes this is the quick way but maybe he can give you some better tips.

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:08 am

Thanks both.

The information is Greatly appreciated

I would still love any other great places to watched the planes and how to get there!

Thanks again

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RE: RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:11 am

Hi the Free Bus no longer operates so i am not sure which bus you will have to get to the Cargo area as BA pulled out of the Operation and now uses its own Buses on the route!
 
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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:22 am

Hey,

The first pic is the esso station, it's at the end of 27L opposite the T5 constuction site. This pic was shot from there.

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The second shot is as Justin says, just along the perrimiter road next to 27R. It's a little spot down by the ren hotel that is set away from the road. Be carefull there, the police have stopped me a few time there before. This was shot there.

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:33 am

As Chris said the A346 was taken from the Esso station, he was standing along side me when I took that photo.

The CSA was taken by the renaissance Hotel on the perimeter road just along from the Visitor Centre.

I've been here quite a few times and have never been moved on.

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:36 am

Anybody know any more spots

Not going up till Christmas week at earlyies

Thanks for all the info so far

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:08 am

Jimmi,

It all depends what types of shots you want?

For side on landing shots, try Myrtle Avenue. Get the 285 to Hatton Cross and head towards the BP Connect garage. The follow that road down and you will approach the landing lights, carry on walking. You should come to a playing field this is Myrtle Avenue. Shots like these are achieved:


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For landings on 27R (similar to those at Myrtle Avenue) I would take the bus or walk from Hatton Cross to the BA maintenance area. There is a roundabout near by, ideally you want to shoot from the pavement under the approach.


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If they are using runway 09L for landings then you want to catch the bus from outside the Renaissance (You can get the 285 to the renaissance) into "Longford". This is a small village right under the 09L approach path. These shots are also going to be quite similar to those mentioned above.


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If climb outs (09R) are your thing then I can suggest Feltham, although I haven't been here myself Ben Albrow posted a quite in depth description of this place.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/148922/

Climb outs can be acquired from Myrtle Avenue, but I'm not sure if this is the hip thing to do!


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There are other various spots about in which you can get some ground shots. These are found along the perimeter roads.

This place is towards the place I talked about at 27R, these are not too hard to find once you know your LHR.


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I hope this helps mate, good luck!  Big thumbs up

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RE: RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:08 am

The Bus to Longford is the 81 which goes to Slough when you get to Longford there are two stops the 1st Near the Mc Donalds and the second after this which is the one you need for 09 Left landings once of the Bus walk towards the approaching aircraft until you reach a road traffic round about then turn left you will have to cross the road then walk under the approach lights and if its a weekend you may see people standing in the field.

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:39 am

Thanks Justin For all the help,I have been To Myrtle Avenue as i said before.

If anybody would like to see my shots from LHR click on my profile and you will see a link to my photos on my.net.

Thanks everybody elsa.

Keep it coming please.


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RE: RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:28 am

One for the spring Summer autum Hatton cross foot bridge for evening landing shots of 27 Left once the sun has moved round and Mertyle avenue is in shadow!!
 
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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:12 am

Man, I've got to find out how to get to those photo spots at the Renaissance, let alone all the other spots! I've only got a few months left here, and I need to find the other choice spots if I'm going to get any more decent shots before I leave the UK! I like Myrtle Avenue, and the field off of 09L is not bad either--if the cops are in a good mood--but I need to get to those other areas sometime before July or so.  Big grin
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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:48 pm

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27R landing shots from red maintenance gates, plus taxi to dep 27R

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27L Myrtle av field, plus 27L landing from Term 4 hill near Hilton hotel

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BA maintenance from rear, plus maintenance from red gates

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09R deps from term 4 hill near hilton hotel, 09L landing field

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27L taxi for dep, 27L line up for dep (perimeter fence)

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BA maintenance road crossings, car park term 2

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27L deps at esso garage


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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:22 pm

A rather nice gallery from Ryan.

Here's a few other places too:


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Near to Tescos and DHL offices in Feltham Faggs Road.



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Wraysbury somewhere?



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Moor Lane, parellel to the Western Perimeter Road.

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:51 pm

If you can get a good rate then actually staying at the Renaissance is a good bet especially if sharing a twin. At the end of the corridors are opening windows that can be shot from! I didn't have a decent enough lens last time I was threre - but I have now!!!

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:55 pm

John,

Myself and Chris Sharps found those windows at the end of the corridors a time we stayed there! This was at about 2 in the morning mind...

I no longer like the Renaissance as we have had a bad couple of visits there. Too expensive IMHO as well!  Sad

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:51 am

I think Heathrow's getting tied up, a lot like Schipol has now. But, if we're plugging, here's a few that might help:

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These were shot at the "famous" road crossing, as aircraft are tugged across from the main airport area, to the BA maintenance area. From where I shot Wunula, imagine panning right 90 degrees, then that's where the winglet was taken. Normally an SAA lump will park up there, and from the path I don't think any lens would fit it in??The winglet overhangs the fence if memory serves me well.

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The above two were shot from the mini roundabout 50 metres back from where the Wunula was taken. It is the approach to 27R.

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These two were shot from Myrtle Avenue, obviously as they depart off 09R.

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Taken from the crash gate abeam 27L. Not advisable to hang around here too long though, you WILL be moved on.

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Shot as they approach 27L, but not from Myrtle. This is from one of the fields with the approach lights are in, and a lovely white horse!! About 100m before you turn right into Myrtle.

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Taken from, as Ryan mentioned, up on the hill near the Heathrow Hilton, approaching the Terminal 4 turn off.
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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:45 am

It is still to do with Heathrow Spotting (My next question)

So here it goes.

What sort of time do the runways change?
Why do they change?
What is the most used dirrection of the planes taking off/landing?

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:51 am

What sort of time do the runways change?
Why do they change?
What is the most used dirrection of the planes taking off/landing?


1. The runway's change at 3pm if they are using 27's. If they are on 09's they wont change all day.

2. They change to comply with noise procedures.

3. It all depends on wind, but usually they are on 27's. Best check the TAF before you leave home.

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:52 am

What sort of time do the runways change?

3 p.m. daily, unless they are using 09's.

Why do they change?

To keep the noise levels down for the local residents. It is an agreement they have with the local councils.

What is the most used dirrection of the planes taking off/landing?

I'm assuming you mean which runways are used most often? Please be more clear!

Cheers,

Justin Big grin

Edit: Simon, your too quick mate!  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:07 am

The prevailing winds in the UK are west/south-westerly and as aircraft always try to takeoff and land into the wind, it means they will use 27s 75-80% of the year (approximately).

I also believe LHR has 27s as the preferred runways if the tailwind component is less than 5kts - i.e. even if the wind goes round to easterly, or at least an easterly component, the component needs to be greater than 5kts for them to switch to easterly (09) operations.
 
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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:08 am

I'm assuming you mean which runways are used most often? Please be more clear!

Well,

I was asking,

What way the planes normally taking off (Direction).

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:17 am

One Spot most of you will not know about but which may interest you is the RAF Memorial at the top of Coopers hill near Windsor.

As at the top of the Memorial building is a TOWER observation point which gives Fantastic Views of Heathrow From Way up you Just Need a Long Lens and A converter also GOOD WEATHER.

You can see rite down to 09Left and Right and The Traffic on the Taxi ways can be seen from up there.

May be better for Take Off and Landing Shots than any thing else!!
 
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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:39 am

Hi A.netters,

I have noticed pics of aircraft crossing over the road at LHR - Are there certain times that planes cross over?If so when?

Thanks

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:46 am

The planes cross over the road when ever they need too. This will be stopped next month as the road is being diverted.

In the morning, the SA and QF planes get towed over to BA Mantainance, and in the evening they get towed back in preperation for there flight back home.

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:56 am

Hi all,

Why is it being stopped?
Will it start again?
Where are they being diverted?

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:59 am

Is this some kind of inquisition European?

Are you attempting to marry LHR or something?

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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:15 am

Why is it being stopped?
Will it start again?
Where are they being diverted?


1. Security
2. No.
3. Round the back of BA Mantainance.

Im starting to get a little worried.
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RE: What's Up With The AV Forum......

Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:57 am

Just to share Simon sentiments, I think things at LHR will become slightly more tougher. It will be interesting to see to what extent the closing of the road has, i.e. where the new fence is erected and standing near the business units, etc, at the end of 27R. Will the latter still be tolerated?
 
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RE: What's Up With The AV Forum......

Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:53 am

We Shall see what happens in December I think its due to Happen around the 15-17th of the Month!!
 
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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:19 am

I cannot see how the whole thing is going to work anyway.... It going to be a complete nightmare (traffic wise) !!!!!

Just think the road at that point (the aircraft crossing) is two lanes each way. Now next to the huts the road is only one lane each way..... Its going to cause a huge bottleneck at rush hour and the traffic is going to be terrible.

Just hope our good friend the Police or security do not try to use this as a reason for moving people on  Sad
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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:44 am

Justin,

I do not intend to marry London Heathrow  Angry thankyou.

It is a shame they will be closing the crossing - i never had the chance to see a plane cross the road  Sad

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RE: RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:53 am

Hi One bit of info the Road around the back of the Hangars is being widened and strengthened to take all the extra traffic once its finished it will be as good as the old straight through road!
 
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RE:?Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:02 am

Are there any pics of where the planes will be diverted?

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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:29 am

Are there any pics of where the planes will be diverted?

Errrr the Planes are not being diverted  Insane
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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:34 am

*Err the planes are not being diverted*

The road is being diverted you said.

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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:40 am

The road is being diverted you said.

Yes, the road is being diverted.
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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:45 am

Huh,

I'm getting confused.

So the planes will cross a Road?But different place?

Please help clear this up.

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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:11 am

Ok, Ill explain (again)

At the moment, the planes cross the road, when the traffic is diverted the crossing will be made into a taxiway. Planes will then be able to go over to mantainance whenever they want without waiting the traffic.

The road traffic will be diverted around the BA Base.
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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:11 am

The road is being diverted around the back of maintenance, thus the planes can cross the former road without having to wait for the barriers to lower etc, thus making it more secure (or so they say - I reckon drivers would notice someone with a missile on their shoulder!!!).
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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:18 am

The road is being diverted, not the aircraft. Today a road and taxiway to maintenance cross each other. They are diverting the road away so that just a taxiway is left with no road crossing. Aircraft won't cross a road any more!

See picture below. Blue line is current perimeter road and yellow marks are where the crossing is. The red line is where they will divert the traffic to (I'm assuming it goes all the way to the A30 like I illustrated, but I'm not sure of that - in essence it shows that it goes around the back of the maintenance area) Anyone know if it goes all the way to the A30 or if it cuts back in to the existing perimeter when past the crossing? I can't really see how it can without needing another crossing!



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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:03 am

Err not quite the road is going to follow the Hangar road around to Hatton Cross as where it would join the A30 is where the Tube line Comes up to Cross over a River before going back under ground hope this clears things up a bit.

It will play havoc with the people who do not know its happening and try to walk from 27 Left to 27 Right at 1500 Local
 
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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 6:07 am

It will play havoc with the people who do not know its happening and try to walk from 27 Left to 27 Right at 1500 Local

I think most of the people would have found out now Lurch  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:41 am

Yeah, I seem to recall a sign announcing the fact when I was there in July. got my opportunity of a aircraft crossing photo which is now in the database, so I'm happy. Will be a shame to see it go, was a fairly unique location!
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RE: Heathrow Spotting Places?

Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:26 am

Well its like this when I 1st posted the info on the Crossing being pulled I got told I was talking nonsense and people demanded proof!

There are always those who have there heads firmly stuck in the SAND! Ore some where else!

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