IanatSTN
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Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:14 pm

Hi Guys,

I am yet to get an image on A.net, and this is my most recent attempt...

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=rwy24_filtered1024it.JPG

It was rejected for badquality, so can anyone give some tips on what I can do to improve this image?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Topic: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:22 pm

First of all, what camera are you using? Because with some non DSLR's you simply cannot get pictures onto this site I would say. This picture looks a little soft and blurry...how big is the original file? Bad quality can often be a result of jpeg compression. Do you use Photoshop software and save it as quality 12 (maximum)? That is very important!

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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:36 pm

Can you give more details of equipment used and your image processing technique.
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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:44 am

No problem,

I use the Kodak DX6490 which has 10x optical zoom and 4Mp. The original size of the image is 2304 x 1728 pixels.

I have basic knowledge of photoshop, I use Adobe PhotoDeuluxe 3.0, which although is not ideal, it does alright for me.However, when I export the image to a jpg file I do not get to control the amount of compression the file receives...

I should post the original file, anyone know where I can post a 516kb JPEG?

Thanks for your help so far,
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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:09 am

Can you turn off all in camera processing...? That way you will have more control over the final image from within your editing package.


Do you have any free webspace from your ISP...?

Ian.

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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:41 am

Ok, here is the original pic....

http://uploads.savefile.com/users/uploads/100_2930.jpg

Can you turn off all in camera processing...? That way you will have more control over the final image from within your editing package.

I kinda do this to a certain degree, but the camera still has control over most things. What sort of things were you thinking of?

Thanks again.

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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:34 am

Mainly in camera sharpening, as the camera has to be ready to take another shot quickly it applies sharpening without any restrictions. Instead of picking which parts of the image to sharpen.

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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:43 am

Thanks for the advice Ian....

Judging by the original pic, is there any possibility this shot can be reworked into possible acceptance material?

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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:21 am

I added some contrast and color. the contrast is pretty bad on this shot. I don't know if it is good enough for a.net.

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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:38 am

Honestly Roel,

That bottom one looks great in my eyes.

 
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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:51 am

Roel,

Thank you very much for your help so far.

What do you think I should do from here? Should I have a play around with contrast and colour?

I have another problem that when I rotate an image in photoshop, I get vertical lines appear on the image. Is this normal? Can it be helped?

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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:23 am

Seems Roel beat me to it.
I played about with levels, colour and contrast also.



Hard to crop correctly as the main is off to the right.

Ian.


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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:47 am

What do you think I should do from here? Should I have a play around with contrast and color?

Yep, that is the best thing to do. (and don't give up  Wink/being sarcastic )

I have another problem that when I rotate an image in photoshop, I get vertical lines appear on the image. Is this normal? Can it be helped?

Mmm, never seen that. Can you post an example?

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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:12 am

Thank you again Ian and Diezel,

What I really mean is when I rotate, my images becomes jaggy, kinda like every few pixels have been rotated individually rather than the whole picture. Example.

http://uploads.savefile.com/users/uploads/jaggy.jpg

Also, what needs to be done sharpening wise (if anything) to my pic? I have basic knowledge of USM and no how to use it, but don't know what values I should be using.

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RE: Rejected Photo - Your Help Please!

Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:51 am

Ian,
Was that taken as a screen capture...? You may find that as you rotate the image the viewing magnification changes, you should always edit a photograph using a viewing magnification that isn't an odd division - i.e. use 25% or 50% or 75%. Photoshop does some funny things to an image when you view it at 33.3% for example.

USM - as you know it will vary between cameras, I used 200% at 0.2pix 0 threshold then 90%, 0.3, 3. This was applied to the luminous channel. Not sure if you can do that within your editing package though.

Ian.
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