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Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:54 am

I would like to get some opinions on what camera would you choose between the D100 or the D70 although the D70 is a newer product im being told that the D70 has better options and a better camera .
Any help would be appreciated.
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:13 am

I would go with D100. I had in my hands D70 and D100 at the same time. D70 doesn't have that feeling of a real camera (now I'm going to get from D70 users  Big grin ).
I have D100 and I love it.

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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:16 am

Every review I've read of the D70 says it's a better camera than the D100. It should be - it's, what, 2 years newer than the D70 (and this is a fast moving field!)

I've always shot Nikon, and am now a proud shooter with the D70. For the (now even cheaper [grr]) price, I think it's possibly the best DSLR out there. Don't worry about what the Canon users think  Laugh out loud

Whatever you do though, make sure you use quality glass otherwise you're wasting the camera.

If money is no object, then wait till the new year and buy a D2X (12mp) full-spec pro camera (with price to match!)
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:26 am

Lindy and Scbriml
I thank you for the replies .
I don't have money to burn but i would like to get something that will improve my chances of getting a pic excepted on anet.
Im trying to justify bundling 15 future Christmas presents into 1 so i can purchase the camera
Ops
although the D70 is a newer product im being told that the D70 has better options and a better camera .
correction.
Although the D70 is a newer product im being told that the D100 has better options and a better camera .
Sorry about that.


[Edited 2004-12-10 20:40:59]
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:44 am

the D70 has a buffer write speed that is much faster than the D100
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:53 am

I was in the same position you were back in March. I decided to go with the (IMO) better D70. No regrets here, the D70 handles like a pro and feels just fine even after switching between it and my F5.

Mike
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:54 am

Clickhappy
Does that change at all with the brand or size of the flashcard
Thanks in advance.
Mikephotos
ALso thanks for your coment.i want to ask also what lens do you sugest.

[Edited 2004-12-10 20:56:33]
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:56 am

JumboJim747,

Check out the D100 & D70 review on http://www.dpreview.com/ and also the D70/D100 forum. With all the info there you should be able to match which body is better for your needs.

Mike
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:57 am

 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:59 am

Thanks a lot Mike Mikephotos
Great to see a lot of people simply want to help thanks to all that also replied.
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:11 am

After Christmas I will be shopping for a second body, my choices would be either the D100 or the D70. I will be buying the D70.
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:13 am

Hi Alan,

I've got both models. I bought a D100 in July 2002 and carried my older film F100 as a spare body, but the fact is that I only made three or four rolls in two years since the D100 purchase, so I decided to sold it and bought a D70 in exchange (by adding less than 100 Euros).

I was wrong: the D70 couldn't be my second camera, it's now my first body and 90% of my photos are made with it, specially action shots (with the 80-400VR attached). I use the D100 for ramp shots with the 28-105 or the 18-35.

Here are the D70 advantages for me:

- D70's bigger buffer allows me more shots in a sequence (I shot mainly RAW)
- Metering is much better. The D100 tends to underexpose, specially in low light conditions (Though you always can adjust exposure or shot manual, like in old times Big grin)
- Compressed RAW (half the size of a D100 NEF file!)
- Better LCD and zoom display
- Focus confirmation by a beep
- Price
- You don't need an AC adaptor to clean the sensor (even cheaper Smokin cool )

The D100 also has its pros:

- Better build quality
- Better noise performance (at least to my eye)
- Two memory banks for your preferred settings
- Wider ISO range

Anyway the D100 is an excellent performer, but if you are money conscious go for the D70...
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:28 pm

I'm a D70 shooter, and I'm in love with the camera. Can't compare with the D100,.... Big grin

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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:00 pm

I would say D70 is more suitable for aviation photography because of its superb CF writing performance.

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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:33 pm

Tonimr
You may have just made my mind up for me with those points you sound like you know your camera .
And to all the others that have replied
Andyhunt
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Clickhappy
Mikephotos
Scbriml
Lindy
Tonimr
Thanks everyone i cant thank you enough for your help .
Cheers
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:59 pm

I moved straight from F80 to D70. I'd say go for the D70. Although I wish it had options like a battery pack or a cable-release.
But I'm not complaining at all.

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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:51 pm

D70 owners how many RAW shots can you shoot in one continuous blast?

Cheers

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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:09 am

Paul,

Without lifting my finger from the shutter button I get 4 RAW and then 1 shot roughly after 0,5s almost endlessly.
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:20 am

Folks,

I have the D70 as well, and I realize the following is way off topic but seems relevant in the current topic because there are so many D70 owners here...so please indulge me  Smile

My D70 has a nasty habit of exposing the first frame in a rapid sequence ok and then vastly underexposing the following frames. I've tried different lenses with the same result. Does anyone else have this problem? I shoot with center wieghted meter and have tried all the settings for the spot size.

TIA
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:01 am

Sorry Sunil, mind does not have that problem. All frames are exposed the same.

Mike
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:32 am

ok, thanks Mike... back to the shop for mine then.

Still, can the D70 users share the exposure and program settings they use for action (landing, takeoff) shots?

Thanks

Sunil
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:58 am

Sunil,

I shoot RAW and since mostly in full sun, aperture priority at f/8. I'll take a few test shots and adjust exposure comp. according. Here's some ofthe EXIF on the following shot:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Michael F. McLaughlin



Lens: 80-200 F/2.8D
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/500 sec - F/8
Exposure Comp.: -0.3 EV
ISO: 200
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Direct sunlight -1
AF Mode: AF-S

For .jpg shooting, I have a custom curve uploaded to the D70 (Digital_Fuji_Superia_Reala)

Mike

 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:12 am

"... uploaded to the D70..."

Do explain Mike! I didn't know that you could do that.

Sunil
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:50 pm

You can upload one custom curve to the body and use it (select it) but you must have Nikon Capture. Here's a link on info about the WhiteWedding Curve and how to install it but it's the same procedure for any curve you decide to use.

http://members.aol.com/bhaber/D70/curves.html

Do a Google search for "D70 Custom Curve" and I'll sure you'll find some nice reading.

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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:46 pm

I just bought a D70 Friday...only problem is it won't be here 'til tomorrow or Tues.  Sad
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:33 pm

I currently have the D100 have shot with the D70 on several occasions. I have the battery pack on my D100 and much prefer the feel of the D100 with a battery pack to the D70. When i shoot with my 70-200 the D100 has MUCH better balance. The D70 however has better pictures, its newer technology.

If i was going to buy a camera today i would buy the D70, however i'm waiting for the D2X, looks like a pretty sweet toy.

Robert
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:23 pm

i've used both and currently own the D70. hands down it's a great camera. my only dislike of it is the fact that it doesn't support a battery grip, making it feel somewhat small in my hands. other than that, i love the thing.
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:30 pm

I bought the Nikon D70 in November 2004. I read the instruction book a few times.

I have some photos taken with the new camera on airliners.net. So far I am getting good results.

I have a question when I used my zoom lenses 28 - 105mm and 70 - 300, the auto focus is not done automatically when I press half way on the shutter. May be , I did not program the auto focus program correctly.

Suggestions are welcome to solve that possible problem.

I also have a Nikon F80.

Regards,

Pierre
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:01 pm

Pierre,

To correct this, do the following:

Press the MENU button, scroll down to the "Pencil" icon (3rd down), scroll down to #15, AE-L/AF-L. You probably have it set right now to AF-ON. This does not focus when you press the shutter half-way down, only when you press the AE-L/AF-L button. You want to set this to AE/AF Lock which is the 1st (top) setting. The icon is a picture of 2 black locks. Highlight it and press ">" button to select OK.

Mike
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:40 pm

My roommate just got his D70 today and from the looks of it, I think it's a sturdy peice of camera....IMHO, better material then the Canon 300D for the price that is.

Kevin
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:09 pm


sunilgupta: sounds like youve activated bracketing. Disable it and it should expose flawlessly again. It always does! D70 allt he way.
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:57 pm

I moved from a F70 camera to a D70 "body". The main reason was that the two lenses I have with the N70 camera are also compatible with the D70. I really like the D70 it's so "easy" to use... even for me. However I can't comment on the D100. Which ever one you choose it will no doubt be a good move.

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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:17 pm

Well, as a new user of the D70, I am biased. However, I am still trying to get a photo accepted using this camera. After using an F80 for a couple of years I am finding the transition to digital a bit traumatic. Bit I am sure with the easy to use controls of the D70 I will overcome.

All I have to do then is persuade the scrutineers that not every photo has to be shot in bright sunlight and that sometimes it rains and is dull. We cant all go to the Caribbean. This island is not famed for its good weather!  Yeah sure
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 25, 2004 1:26 am

Thank you Mike for the suggestion. I did the correction and the autofocus works correctly when I press the shutter half way.

Regards,

Pierre
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:05 am

Wow! This is a pretty helpful thread. I just recently decided on the D70 over the D100 and - after reading this thread - I feel much better about the decision.

An important point that has been overlooked is (for the cost-conscious): less-expensive body = better glass much sooner! Big grin
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:21 am

I've been using the D70 for a couple of weeks now along side my Fuji S2 and have had the opportunity to use the D100 from time to time also. The D70 is certainly capable of producing amazing quality images, on par with the S2. Other than my regular beef with proprietary power cells, I have to say it is well worth the $899US. I will be interested to see how it performs over the long run. My current S2 has well over 25,000 shutter cycles and is still going strong.

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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 27, 2004 2:36 pm

Guys i thank everyone for the advice and i have the d70 now .
I have one problem with the camera that i cant seem to rectify.
My pictures seem to be dark and my whites seem to have a ting of blue in them .
I tried to adjust the white balance to all settings and shot in all modes with different ISO and in clear daylight with the same results.
I even put it in auto mode to see if that would help but i still get the blue ting in the whites and the pics are a bit dark.
I compared it with another spotters camera and his whites are crisp and neat.
Any help would be appreciated.
Here are a couple of images
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/alan747/Jettest.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/alan747/Thaijpg.jpg
I have no problem with other colours only whites
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:34 pm

Jim,

I have the same problem. Most of the time this blue cast can be removed quite simply, however, it then gets difficult to get the colours and sharpness exactly right. Too bright whites and too saturated colours leave a lot of manipulating to do (which I am not very good at, as evinced by my rejection rate!  Sad

I think the camera itself is basically sound and quite excellent, its just a matter of persevering and getting used to the settings and learning the ropes.

Keep at it!
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 27, 2004 6:36 pm

Jumbojim, are you using Matrix-metering when you shoot? As long as you have a G or D type lens, matrix is the best for shooting in daylight. Those pics look way to dark. The D70 has supersolid metering, so i doubt thats the problem. Try shooting RAW and play around in Nikon View with the file, youll learn a lot.
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:46 pm

Skidmarks
I have been playing with it trying everything
I have learnt a lot from trying to fix the problem .
ChrisH
As far as the lens is concerned i have a 70-300 F1.4 f5.6G
I will keep trying but it doesn't look promising .
Other then that the camera is very good .
Thank you skidmarks and chrisH and everyone else
Cheers
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:29 am

I would go as well for the D70. For all the various reasons mentioned above.  Smile
 
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RE: Nikon D100 Or D70

Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:28 pm

Ordered my D70 a few minutes ago! It took all my spare cash, so the 18-70mm AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor lens that comes with it will have to do for now. But its a start! Big grin

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