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And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:10 am

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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:15 am

Use the two main wheel axles to level the image. Plus, there is weird sharpening stuff going on.
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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:16 am

It appears to be not level John.
Look at the mast in the back ground, that should be vertical.
I would say it is about 2 degrees off.


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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:18 am

To me it looks like the left side of the picture is lower then the right side measure from the landing gear to the bottom of the picture on both sides and you can tell the difference.
But maybe a screener can tell you more .
Can anyone suggest a good way to line a picture up as sometimes cropping doesn't help much.?
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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:18 am

Hee you beat me Wietse  Laugh out loud
But i have to disagree with you, it appears that the runway is sloping too therefore the axle can't be used as reference.

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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:22 am

If possible always take a fixed reference point from which you know it is supposed to be level or straight up, like a light mast or something.
Runways are usually not level as you want the rain water to flow sideways.

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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:33 am

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Is there anyway we can rotate the image to be level Before cropping
I tried to crop a few times but it only crops the picture but leaves the angle the same any help would be appreciated.
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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:37 am

About 1.1 degrees CW levels it up in my view. If you use the ILS radiator on the left, this should always give you a correct vertical reference.

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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle H

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:42 am

JumboJim747:

This thread (if it hasn't been deleted)  Wink/being sarcastic might help:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/76567/6/

Saludos

j

P.S: Edited to make the link work

[Edited 2004-12-12 22:44:29]
 
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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:55 am

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Got it thanks a lot javibi .
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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:35 am

Hi John,

I'm with Jid on this one. I also make it about a 1 degree rotation clockwise.

I have learned from many badcamerangle rejections that you must use anything in the image that could be seen to be reliably vertical - in this case that ILS radiator/aerial (or whatever it is) on the left is good. In the photo as it stands it is definitely leaning a bit to the left. Personally I would ignore the plane itself or the taxiway, as they can be far from level.

I have more recently tended to put a note to the screeners telling them what I have used to ensure the camera is level. Fluke or otherwise - since doing so I have had no rejections for this. (But I won't hold my breath).

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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:08 am

If possible always take a fixed reference point from which you know it is supposed to be level or straight up, like a light mast or something.

I thought we had all decided in here quite some time back that light poles are not a good source of level/vertical?

I wish there were a good building vertical that he could use in that photo as most of those radio towers aren't exactly level either.

I'll go with wheel axles on this one as they should be right across from each other. On that note, I guess you could also use the spinners in the engines...


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RE: And Now For Something Normal Again. Badangle Help!

Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:34 am

Just rotated 0.7 cw and looks fine now to me? Even that tower looks vertical?

I use a vertical and or a horizon line to get photos level. Airport runways are not always level as they have to drain when wet and I always add a note to screeners in this case. It does Help!

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