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Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:29 am

Hi everybody!

As I am thinking about replacing the Canon EF-S 18-55 kit lens that came with my 300D I am looking for opinions about my possible options. I definitely want a quality-lens, so my Canon choice would be the 17-40L f/4. The 16-35L f/2.8 is out of my price-range. My other option would be the Tamron 17-35 Di f/2.8-4. I've read some very good comments on the Tamron, and as I already have the Tamron 28-75 XR Di f/2.8 and am very happy with its performance I tend to believe these good ratings of the 17-35. On the other hand after having bought the Canon 100-400L IS I though that I never wanted anything else than Canon L-glass.

I hope I've made my little dilemma clear. And of course money is a factor. The Tamron is about 250€ less than the Canon but if the difference between the two lenses is really big I'd be willing to stretch my budget and and go for the Canon L.

Thank you very much in advance for your opinions and your help.

Best regards,
mfz

P.S. I would not only use the lens on my 300D as standard-lens but also on my EOS 33 as analog wide-angle. Should this influence my choice?

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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:49 am

Think about a 12-24 since you already have a 28-75.
This will give you less overlap and a 12-24 is more useful on your 300D anyway.
I have tried the Sigma 12-24 and was quite impressed, for sure it is better then the 15-30 i have now...... not in sharpness or color but it does not flare as much(or better.... not at all.)


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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:37 am

Hi Michael,

On a side note... What do you like and dislike about the Tamron 28-75 XR Di f/2.8 ? I just bought a 100-400 as well and I'd like to get something to "replace" the 18-55 EF-S, which isn't very good. I looked into Canon glass as well, but as you said, it's quite expensive. I've been reading several good reviews about the Tamron 28-75 XR Di f/2.8 on fredmiranda, so any feedbacks on this lense from you would be appreciated.

Hope you'll get an answer for your dilemma.

Thanks.

Kind regards,

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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:49 am

Get a Canon 16-35L F2.8  Big grin
 
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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:00 am

I have used the Tamron 28-75/2.8 for quite some time Alex and it is a fine piece of glass.
It's fast and very sharp, an example made with this lens.

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Sold it after some time anyway and got myself a Sigma 24-70/2.8EX mainly because it shows a bit less barrel distortion but the Tamron isn't bad at all.

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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:19 am

Why would you recommend someone the 16-35 2.8 when the 17-40 is a better piece of glass?

MfZ, get the 17-40. It will be worth saving for. I have one and I love it. It is superb. Not as wide as the 12-24, but very, very sharp and very little distortion.

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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:53 am

What makes the 17-40 better than the 16-35 ?
 
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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:24 pm

Willem, do you find that the Sigma focuses faster than your Tamron did? The slow focusing speed of my Tamron 28-75 is irritating, so I am thinking of selling it and buying the Sigma. The extra 4mm on the wide end would be nice too.
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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:33 pm

What makes the 17-40 better than the 16-35 ?

Testresults... Do a search on the net if you want to know the details.

I have a 17-40 too... It's very good. Hasn't disappointed me yet.  Smile
Eduard

edit: here's a link...
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/canon-17-40.shtml

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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:44 pm

Ahh the old 16-35 vs 17-40 debate.
The 17-40 is a lovely lens if you get a good one.
The 16-35 is an amazing lens if you get a good one.
Be careful that you do not get a dud and make sure you purchase with a return swap warranty from the shop you buy from.
Go the 17-40 you won't be sorry.
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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:54 pm

Hi guys!

Thank you very much for your answers so far, I really appreciate that! Looks like it's an almost unanimous vote for the 17-40. I sure wouldn't mind trying the 16-35 but as stated above this is way out of my budget right now. So I guess the 17-40 it shall be then.

@AGD

As for the Tamron XR Di 28-75 f/2.8: I really like it as mine delivers very sharp photos even wide open, and that not only on the EOS 300D with its crop factor but also when I shoot full frame (mostly slides) with my EOS 33. The autofocus might be little slower than Canon's USM but for me this is no real drawback. The built-quality of the lens is good, and as far as I can tell you get as close to Canon L-glass qualitywise as you can in this lens-range, but for 1/3 of the price. In a nutsehll: I wouldn't want to miss mine anymore.
HOWEVER: Beware that apparently there are some bad copies floating around which have a sharpness-problem. So either take your camera to your local photostore and try out the exact copy you want to buy. Or if you order it online make sure that you can return it in case you get one of these bad copies.

Finally, to give yon an impression of the lens's performance check out some of my photos taken with it. I tried to include different light-conditions and focal lengthes.

All photos taken with Canon EOS 300D and Tamron XR Di 28-75 f/2.8


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Best regards and thanks again for all your hints and tips!

Cheers,
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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:20 pm

Willem and Micheal, thanks for your comments. The lense sure does look sharp.
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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:38 am

Willem, do you find that the Sigma focuses faster than your Tamron did? The slow focusing speed of my Tamron 28-75 is irritating, so I am thinking of selling it and buying the Sigma. The extra 4mm on the wide end would be nice too.
Bronko i really liked the Tamron for it's sharpness and color and was never bothered by slow AF but indeed the Sigma 24-70/2.8EX is faster.
For me AF speed is not a problem as long as we are talking about relative short lenses in the region of 24 to 80mm, AF travel distance from one end to the other is so short that differences are within fractions of a second.
Don't worry about it.

Willem

ps. Are we talking about the Canon version ? i did !  Laugh out loud
Some Sigma's seem to perform not as good on a Nikon then on a Canon, don't ask me why but i've read it many times around here.
For example about the 70-200/2.8EX which seems to be slow on a Nikon but performs very good on a Canon.


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RE: Canon 17-40L F/4 Vs. Tamron 17-35 F/2.8-4

Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:31 am

On a 1.6 crop sensor like the 300D the 17-40F4L is an awesome choice. I got mine nearly a year ago and it is my most used lens!

It is sharp at F4, little distortion, good contrast and color and really feels nice to use.

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