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Some Advice On This One

Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:15 am

Got this one not accepted to the DB: badexposure

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/CRW_1040OO-VESDECK1212.jpg

Is there something I can do to improve it's a RAW file.

Thanx

Fabrice



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RE: Some Advice On This One

Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:22 am

The panel is to dark....no detail in the gauges...
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RE: Some Advice On This One

Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:54 am

The size is also 1024x695 with the credit........

I'm new at this so I might be wrong...

Thanks again.

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RE: Some Advice On This One

Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:30 am

The size is also 1024x695 with the credit........

I'm new at this so I might be wrong...


No, you're wrong  Wink/being sarcastic . Just as long as it isn't a very odd aspect ratio, there should be no problems with this. Most of my uploads are at 1024x683 (without credit bar).

It looks as though the instrument panel is underexposed, and something really odd is going on with the F/O's displays. They are noticeably darker than that of the captains, in fact, that whole area is noticeably darker.

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RE: Some Advice On This One

Sun Jan 23, 2005 3:52 pm

Hi, well the panel its under exposed, the exterior its fine tough  Confused

if you took it in RAW format, try adding the +2 fstops that you can manage with raw format, (at least that's what I've heard) you have those privileges for using RAW, carefully play with the brightness and with luck you should be able to upload, but sincerely hum looks hard.

Good luck, personally I think that the shot its great, night flight decks always are interesting.
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RE: Some Advice On This One

Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:17 pm

I guess badexposure does not refer to the darkness of the panel, but to the LCD screens on both sides!
New glass cockpits are more difficult to take photos of, as you have to find a decent exposure which makes all infomation on the LCD screens visible. Take a look at the Captains upper LCD with the horizon. There are only parts of it pictured, your exposure was too short I guess. Nothing you can do about that on the RAW file.

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RE: Some Advice On This One

Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:00 pm

Here's the best I got from the RAW what do u think, is it worth it?

http://fr.be.msnusers.com/292a0ct7fl2pehnf3plc03vct3/Documents/Images%2FCRW%5F1038OO%2DVESDECK12.01.04.jpg

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RE: Some Advice On This One

Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:16 pm

Hey,

try in Adobe Photoshop to fidle around with the exposure levels, maybe it will help!

goodluck

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RE: Some Advice On This One

Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:05 am

Fabrice,

For me the link does not work, but as I said. I think your exposure probably was not long enough to show all informations on the LCD screens and therefore you can't change it with editing. Reshooting is the only possible way in my opinion.

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RE: Some Advice On This One

Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:33 am




Florian,
Well yep probably should I try to reshoot but as you know it's not allways u have the luck to capture the deck at night. That day I was last on board, ground ops were already in to tow the aircraft and I had no time to set up properly, just a few secs for the tripod and then shoot. The light of LCD's were dimmed down...

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RE: Some Advice On This One

Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:41 pm

Well Florian you'll be surprised how well editing can salvage a RAW picture. Even if the original was a bit underex:


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RE: Some Advice On This One

Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:44 pm

hah yeh i know that feeling! almost all my pics get added between 10-12pm! Oh well...

Raw is better format right???

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RE: Some Advice On This One

Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:11 am

Wow, congratulations on the add Fabrice!
I did not doubt of the space of improvements with .RAW, I just thought the badexposure rejection is because of the not-fully pictured info on the LCD screens of the cockpit, which is not fixable. Even in RAW.  Big grin

Nice photo!

Raw is better format right???

Yes, if you have the knowledge and the storage space.
RAW will give you more freedom with post-processing without a quality-loss like a .jpg has. Also it brings out more details of an image, that's proven.

The problem is you need quite a lot of storage space to shoot RAW all the time. E.g. if you're going to a longer journey, you will need some kind of big Image Tank or a laptop as RAW files are very big!

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RE: Some Advice On This One

Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:22 am

Yep as you said Florian the main problem with RAW is the storage space, specially on a long trip away from home. In a way or in other you have to pay the price of a nice format.

I'm considering buying one of those Tank devices cause carrying the laptop around is kind of a pain specially when you have all your photo gear.

But first I'll probably extend my CF's cards collection a bit, before the image tank.

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