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Flash For Jumpseat Type Shot Advice.

Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:16 am

Hey all...I flew in the back of a 172 last week and was wanting to get some shots on approach where both the cockpit and runway were both illuminated. Well, being a noob in the flash area and only having the onboard flash of the 300D, what I thought would work, did not. I did an exposure lock on the outside, and then tried to use the flash for the cockpit. The cockpit was lit but the outside blown out. Is there a proper way to do this with the onboard flash of the 300D or am I going to need an external unit for it to work properly?

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RE: Flash For Jumpseat Type Shot Advice.

Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:38 am

The way you describe it should have worked. You must have let go of the exposure lock or something?

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RE: Flash For Jumpseat Type Shot Advice.

Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:58 am

When you did the exposure lock on the outside was the flash up? Were you in P mode? The way that has worked for me (with my Canon film SLR) is the following:

Start with P mode:
*Lock exposure with P from the outside. Remember the exposure values!

Switch to M mode:
*Use the same exposure values in M mode.
*Popup the flash.
*Do a flash exposure lock on the instruments.
*Take the photo in M mode.

Sometimes Av also works good because it takes into account both ambient light exposure (for outside) and flash exposure (for the panel etc). During daytime you can set the aperture at 11 to sharpen the outside a bit (if there are clouds etc) and you leave everything to the camera's metering system (good results when it works as it is supposed to work).

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RE: Flash For Jumpseat Type Shot Advice.

Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:51 pm

Hope the flash doesn't distract the pilots during a critical phase of flight.
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RE: Flash For Jumpseat Type Shot Advice.

Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:50 am

Quoting F4wso (Reply 3):
Hope the flash doesn't distract the pilots during a critical phase of flight.


I do agree! If you want to take photos with flash, ask the flight crew before doing so for permission!
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RE: Flash For Jumpseat Type Shot Advice.

Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:11 am

Um, I did...was told no problem and to "click away!" I may go back up next week and try it again.

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RE: Flash For Jumpseat Type Shot Advice.

Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:32 pm

they may be expecting to hear a click but will they be expecting to be blinded aswel. ill be getting the oppertunity to do some cockpit shots in a few weeks but dont want to waste the guys time trying to do it while im there do you think the best idea would be to pratice on my bedroom window while illuminateing the inside and getting the outside exposure correct aswell? cant think of anything elce...
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RE: Flash For Jumpseat Type Shot Advice.

Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:48 am

That is a good idea to plan ahead by trying diff settings out the window...something I might do here a little while. I asked my friend specifically, who was in the right seat if flash was OK...he said they won't even notice it...they sure as heck won't hear the click in a 172 with headphones on.  Smile Wink

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