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A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:37 pm

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/DL_Hanger_0879.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/N381LF_0891.jpg

The first was rejected for bad level, so I zoomed all the way in 1600% on the hanger door sides and it is level using the photoshop grid.

The second was rejected for bad color. This one I don't get, It is a time expouser under "yellow" lights. Hence the yellow color.

Any thoughts?
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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:00 pm

The first shot is leaning to the left quite a bit, check the light pole at the bottom of the picture.

The second shot is way too orange, you need to set the white balance on your rig to compensate for the mercury lights. If you shoot in RAW you might be able to adjust it in post-process.
 
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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:41 pm

It's hard to color correct the mercury lights. The light is almost pure monochromatic orange. Not a good light source for color pictures.
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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:55 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 1):
The first shot is leaning to the left quite a bit, check the light pole at the bottom of the picture

So let me get this right. You are telling me that a light pole would have a better change of being straight as opposed to building. I would think the building would be straight.
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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:30 pm

I played around with the hangar picture. I'm not sure I'd use the term "quite a bit", I was able to straighten it by rotating clockwise 0.8 angle. But anyway then I stared at the photo as a whole and it really doesnt look that bad. The roof of the hangar will slope down to the right a tad if rotated but it is on an angle to you so that is not unexpected. Furthermore, the famous "FLY DELTA JETS" sign is a little crooked too, rotating .8 makes the top of that sign dead-on-balls level. so I'd have to side with the Screeners here.

As for the mercury vapor, raising the input amount of the red color channel to about 11 will get rid of some of the redness. Should look better.

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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:23 pm

Hi all

Paul, hangar picture needs slight rotation clockwise.

I agree that night shots can play havoc with the colours but I feel this image could be a nice addition to the database. Have a go with Colour Washer to see if some of the orange can be taken out.

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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:27 pm

What is colour washer??
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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:43 pm

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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:49 pm

Paul
I am suprised that the top one did not get a badmotive.
There is an awful lot of wasted space in the photo, the mass of black sky, yet the biz jets in the foreground are cut in half. By tipping the camera down and leaving the hangars to the top of the frame it could have made a great night-time overview.
Despite the colour of the second, I like it. You are never going to get the colours right under that lighting but you can get it closer to the mark, though possibly not close enough for acceptence. I added a lot of cyan and blue in Photoshop and got it looking a lot better. I adjusted both until slight blue and cyan casts appeared then backed off a bit, ie the most of either the photo would stand. That was just a quick go but you might do even better using the magic wand and being selective. I doubt that even if shot in RAW it would have helped miuch. I would try that one again once you have adjusted the colour - it is a nice photo
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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:10 pm

here's my take on the FL bird (if you don't mind)

Couldn't get rid of all the red, but alas

http://rockymountainavphotos.com/Eric/N381LF_0891.jpg
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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:43 pm

Paul,

I agree with the screeners on the 1st one and it seems the other posters have helped you with that. But I don't understand badcolor on the 2nd one considering I have one just like it in the DB that was accepted not too long ago.


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Maybe just lighten the reds a little and see where it gets you. But I would try to submit that one again.

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RE: A Couple Of Rejects

Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:53 am

Correction to my previous message:
The orange lights are probably sodium. Mercury lamps have more blue-green.
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