LHSebi
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300 F4+1.4 Vs 100-400

Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:56 am

Hello all,
I am considering upgrading my equipment (lens) very soon. However, I am sort of torn. What do you guys suggest? Should I go for the 300 f4 with 1.4/2x converters, or for the 100-400? I have heard many good things about the 300, and obviously primes will give you better quality. I do plan on buying the 70-200 f2.8 in addition to these in the near future, so would it be smarter to go for the 300 now? Any advice is appreciated!

Greetings,

Sebastian
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mikec
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RE: 300 F4+1.4 Vs 100-400

Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:16 am

If you are talking about your main lens, I'd go for the one with the most flexibility - the 100-400. Having a 300mm prime as your main long range lens is a bit restrictive in my opinion. Excellent as a secondary lens to compliment a telephoto, but I wouldn't have a prime as my main long range lens personally.

If it were my money, I'd buy the 70-200 f2.8 IS first (it's not THAT much more than either of the two you mention), along with a TC (maybe the 2x to give you 140-400mm with it on, and retain AF). Then you have a nice versatile, high quality telephoto. You can then later compliment it with the 300mm f4L prime and then possibly get the 1.4x if funds allow

Just how I'd do it anyway

[Edited 2005-03-31 00:17:56]
 
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RE: 300 F4+1.4 Vs 100-400

Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:30 am

just got my 70-200 2.8 and 1.4x and absolutely love the combination...the quality is just amazing plus the versatility of the 2.8 is unmatched...i chose this setup over the 100-400 and am more than happy with it...i'm thinking i may even pick up a 2x sometime in the near future to give me a little bit more range, depending on if funds allow...

jd
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Tin67
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RE: 300 F4+1.4 Vs 100-400

Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:07 pm

Sebastian,

This is quite a common question and given that you intend to buy a 70-200 f2.8 in the near future, the answer in my mind is easy.

Buy the 300mm f4  checkmark 

When I bought my first L-Series lens I was limited on funds, so for me at the time it was any easy decision to go for the 100-400. I was still using film so was delighted with the results, although I never liked the push/pull zoom.

I found when moving to digital that the 100-400 was a little soft at the long end and when the budget permitted I changed to a 70-200 2.8 IS and a 300mm prime. Firstly the Sigma 300 f2.8, but then to the 300 f4 IS.

I find that my most used lens now is the 300 and more often than not I have a 1.4x extender combo. The results are better at this range that the 100-400 of that there is no doubt. When combined with a 70-200 f2.8 it's a far better option.

The 100-400 is the best alrounder and great value if you're limited to one lens. If not the 300 + 70-200 is the way to go, complimented by a 1.4x extender.

Regards
Martin
 
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RE: 300 F4+1.4 Vs 100-400

Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:48 pm

Hello.
I also think, that 2,8/70-200IS and 1,4 - the best variant.
Unfortunately 4/300IS it is worse than 4/300, and to buy lens 300mm without IS probably does not cost.
100-400IS for such price - not a masterpiece.
Extender 2.0 (this general opinion of professionals) can be applied only when there is no other variants.
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RE: 300 F4+1.4 Vs 100-400

Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:18 pm

I have this setup and think its a great combo

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javibi
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RE: 300 F4+1.4 Vs 100-400

Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:51 pm

A bit off topic, please forgive me!!

Anyone using the Canon 100-400L + 1.4x extender could give me opinions on this combo and explain if you have or have not autofocus?

Many thanks

j
 
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RE: 300 F4+1.4 Vs 100-400

Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:56 pm

Thanks to all for the replies so far.

Javier,
I do not know of anyone using that combo, but I am pretty sure you loose AF if you use the 100-400 with any extender.

Saludos,

Sebastian
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RE: 300 F4+1.4 Vs 100-400

Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:08 am

Withheld

At combo Canon 100-400L + 1.4x extender, central AF sensor
will work. (On EOS3, is for example obliged to work under the specification)

Most likely it will work also with 2.0 Extender, but it is necessary to check
on concrete model of a camera. (and image quality with 2.0 extender???)

Dmitry.

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