quetzalcoatl
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Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:24 pm

I've received an e-mail from a fellow phtographer stating that one of my pictures is being used in a Varig web bulletin without my permission.

this is the link

http://portal.varig.com.br/agentes/netnews/xpress/NNE75.05/view

this is the photo


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Photo © Rafael Cordero - Aviation Photography of México



Just thought everyone should know, and look for extra a.net photos, maybe they are using more photos

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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:09 pm

Rafael
Send them a bill for twice what you would normally charge and tell them that you are doing so because they have used your picture without permission, for the breach of your copyright.
It happened to me recently and I did that with a Norwegian Newspaper and I did get paid.
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:19 pm

Already did that, Mick

Thanks for the advice.

Will keep you posted.

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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:04 am

It's amazing to see that airlines assume that because the picture is of their aircraft, they automatically have all rights to it. Regardless of whether the image has been protected by the copyright act.

Keep us posted, I hope you get blood out of the bastards.

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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:14 am

Yes...best of luck to you on that. Their aircraft...our photos...end of story! Get 'em!  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:56 am

Thanks for posting, and good luck!
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:25 pm

You would think the airlines themselves would have a little more class than some lowly business owner trying to save a buck or two. But if that's the game they want to play, we're up for the challenge. Keep us informed!
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:47 am

Quoting CFIcraigAPA (Reply 6):
You would think the airlines themselves would have a little more class than some lowly business owner trying to save a buck or two.

I would be surprised if many airlines create their own websites - not core business. Many companies outsource their websites to image consulting firms who will produce the website to the company's specifications. It's entirely possible that some lowly web page coder has grabbed the first picture of a Varig plane he could find and used it.
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:59 am

As of today, I have not received any response from Varig in this issue.

I am going to send a couple of emails more.

will keep you posted

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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:22 am

Surprising. I would use the phone and forego the email. This is wrong and anyone who does this should be held accountable.

Keep us posted!
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:07 pm

Had a similar dealing with Air Holland once. They totally ignored me (though the photo was removed quickly).
Didn't have the money to hire a lawyer to go after them (which would likely have brought little as a few months later they went bust).
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:19 am

Maybe ask for a free return ticket to Rio de Janeiro, instead of money...

Seriously though, for those with experience with sending invoices, what order of magnitude are we talking about here?
 
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:29 am

Two to three times the price listed for use (in the way it was used) by the professional photographers' association in your country (twice at least, add another 100% if no source is given).

Depending on location and size of the image that can run into the hundreds of Euros, up to over a thousand if it's large and prominent on the site.
And remember that fee is for a month max use, anything after that and it goes up.
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:25 pm

Bill them for it.
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RE: Varig Using A.net Phtos Without Permission

Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:42 am

I wish you the best in this regard. But they usually don't respect copyrigths. So expect more time than you think for an answer[a positive one of course].

Keep us informed.
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