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How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:26 am

Can someone tell me how this is badmotiv??

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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:42 am

You have that fence there in the foreground. These shots are getting accepted less and less.
(edit) Not just the fence, its really all that distracting clutter.
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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:46 am

Hi Glenn,
I believe there's two reasons:

-the fence and
-the other airbus nose appearing

Also I think there's a bit too much sky.
This one you could solve by cropping, the other two, not
much you can do.
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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:47 am

I'm gonna go with the fence, combined with that other nose in the background. One of these by itself might not have been enough to reject, but with them both together it becomes really distracting.
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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:48 am

Quoting JFKTOWERFAN (Reply 1):
You have that fence there in the foreground. These shots are getting accepted less and less.

And that reality is on a collision course with the fact that there are more and more fences all the time!
I would understand if the fence obstructed the plane .. but it doesn't

Maybe some thought should be given to that!

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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:57 am

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 5):
Maybe some thought should be given to that!

I say rule of thirds: The fence cannot cover more than 1/3rd of the picture, and the fence cannot obstruct the aircraft.
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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:00 am

Quoting EZYAirbus (Reply 3):
its all bollocks this though, can still see the f**king aircraft

Yep its the fence alright! . . . .

and if you think thats bad this was done for the same


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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:02 am

Fergul, that one i can see as the fence is right there in the foreground, how ever in the first post I really dont see why that counts at all.
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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:02 am

I'm going to go with (in no particular order)

1. Fence
2. Other aircraft nose
3. Cropped wing tip and tailplane
4. Too much sky

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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:09 am

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 8):
how ever in the first post I really dont see why that counts at all

I have seen less fence get bad motive, the first post, the fence is in the foreground, take it or leave it. (I'm not being sarcastic here either, That's the way it is, a.net don't like anything that takes away from the photo, fences included)

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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:23 am

Hi Glenn

Of course, I know the spot - having spent many hours in the same place with Alfonso - and it is nearly impossible to get shots from there without having some fence in the shot.


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And the last 2 even more fence than the average picture.

The last 4 shots were added in the last month - so they are recent. So, I am not sure that it is in fact the fence that gives you bad motive. Perhaps asking the screener would shed more light on to the subject?

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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:52 am

I wonder where the line is drawn here?

Clearly at some airports you are far more likely to get the fence in the way than at others. At an airport where there is a known 'fence problem', is it then more acceptable?

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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:21 pm

Quoting Manzoori (Reply 8):
3. Cropped wing tip and tailplane

I believe this is the reason it got rejected and not the fence .
I just got a shot excepted and the fence is in full view .
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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:40 pm

You can have objects in the foreground like signs, sticks, aerials, traffic cones, fencing etc. If a.net didn't allow them, it would only encourage people to start removing them.

I think as long as they're 'part of the scene' and not an awkward distraction - a subjective distincion, I know - then it's okay. This is what some airports look like for us, no way around that.

Glenn, it may have helped if the aircraft was framed a little wider in this instance. It doesn't quite 'look' right as it is. I know how hard the 346 is close up.


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RE: How Is This Badmotiv?

Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:33 pm

Quoting Manzoori (Reply 8):
3. Cropped wing tip and tailplane



Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 12):
I believe this is the reason it got rejected and not the fence .

Can't be the cropped wing/tailplane. That's a standard full fuselage crop. There are lots of photos on such lines in the db:


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