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My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:00 am

I recently started a message board on my site at http://nycaviation.com/forum/.

A member of my site posted a small photo and it looked very familar. I talked with him and he said he got it from vatsimindicators.com, that they give these out to their flightsim pilots.


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Photo © Phil Derner Jr.



And here is the page on the vatsim site:

http://www.vatsimindicators.net/ind.pmd/lib/indicator?id=942

Let's do a closer 500-pixel compare:





I'm pretty angry. I'm contacting the guy and demanding payment for the "get-off-easy" price of $200.

There are a LOT of photos on this site, and I urge you all to have a glance and see if any of your photos were taken as well.

Angered,

-Phil
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:10 am

looks to me that the guy you should be after is
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:13 am

Phil,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I personally didn't see any of my photos, but saw several other peoples photos, including the above mentioned WN 737 shot.

Definately worth checking out...

-Charlie
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:24 am

is this the same one as well?

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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:29 am

Thank you for linking that site, just had a look through and found another Anet photo ( sent email to the owner already ).


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Photo © Juan Pablo Marini



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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:36 am

Its a non-profit site, just make them take it down.
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:47 am





























There are more.
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:50 am

phil... we need to talk. call me, we'll talk about rectifying this situation.
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:56 am

So um.... who wants to be the one to break this to American Airlines?



www.aa.com
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:01 pm

 
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Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:02 pm

 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:05 pm

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 8):
So um.... who wants to be the one to break this to American Airlines?



www.aa.com

Who wants to be the one to break this one to Continental Airlines?


www.continental.com

Its on the top right corner of the web page.
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:17 pm

OMG, I see my photo.  hissyfit 



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What should I do guys?  melting 


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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:22 pm

Quoting Muchswatch (Reply 12):
What should I do guys?

Tell Continental and AA about the photos stolen off their own sites  Wink Big grin
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:41 pm

CO and AA make those images publicly available for use I believe... I might be wrong though...

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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:48 pm

Though if you must feel like you need to take immediate action, then do so. I say a little warning is more than enough, as they're just making signatures, not selling anything. Let's not get paranoid here.

[Edited 2005-04-24 06:17:20]
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:14 pm

I agree with the wanting to be asked before used part...but payment for these sigs is a little awkward at the least. For those of you that don't know, VATSIM and the likes make no money at all.

I understand the frustration, but I think this is the first time I'm going to have to agree with a little "simmer down" the excitement here and just give fair warning...nothing extremely harsh, but gets the point across.

To all of you, I do respect you all...just throwing in my $0.02.
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:11 pm

I wouldn't push the issue all up in the airlines faces if I were you guys. See, here's the thing, If Southwest,or AA, or COA find out people are making money off of copyright claims on photos of their planes,their paint scheme design,(which, by the way, they have THE copyright on), then they may play the big "hey you can't do that!" card. Just the same if you were to sell photos of a famous rock band that you took with your equipment at a concert. How long do you think it would be before their lawyers contacted you. The whole fact that some people sell their photos off the site has worried me anyway. If the major airlines wanted to, they could either demand royalties from all sales of photos of their planes, or, worse yet, demand all photos of their equipment pulled from any sight that they don't control. Trust me, I know. As others have said, they are non profit orgs anyway. The original poster even said "giving out" with regard to the sigs.

Take this with a big ol' grain of salt guys, it's just my two cents and I think you all are outstanding photographers and I don't want to see our hobby reduced to turnip squeezing.

Randy

[Edited 2005-04-24 08:23:20]

[Edited 2005-04-24 08:23:37]
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:21 pm

'Michael Mooronism' ~Jetjack74
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:29 pm

'Michael Mooronism' ~Jetjack74
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:10 pm

Quoting United737522 (Reply 19):
I don't think UA would appreciate this too much:
http://www.united.com/
http://www.vatsimindicators.net/ind....d=825

I'd like to bring to your attention that United is a big player in the flight sim community, and I'm sure has approved this sig/has no issues with it, as they are also a big player in this particular online community. Just to prove this fact, part of their REAL site (a subdomain) is for FS inparticular!

Infact, they offer incentives (like free flights in real world) to outstanding "virtual" pilots.

[Edited 2005-04-24 09:11:30]
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:25 pm

Quoting Flyer732 (Reply 5):
Its a non-profit site, just make them take it down.

No.
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:27 pm

If they had asked, I would have given it to them for free probably.

But they were stolen. It's just something that I have no tolerance for. ANd look how large a scale their stealing is.

It doesn't take much to send a short message asking for usage.

-Phil
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:13 pm

Quoting AA173HEAVY (Reply 17):
If the major airlines wanted to, they could either demand royalties from all sales of photos of their planes, or, worse yet, demand all photos of their equipment pulled from any sight that they don't control.

They can not actually! If I do take photos from a public place I do own the copyright, no matter if it's their aircraft sporting their titles! Many more shooters here will tell you so!

Airlines do not own the copyright of photos any photographer took while standing somewhere in approach snapping away!
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:33 pm

Hey Phil

Get down there and give them a good ol fashioned wrestle!

Get every little last cent you can out of them, take them to the cleaners, looks like a very north american site, they'll be taking my pics soon once this damn Q gets screened!

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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:30 pm

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 21):
No.

Then what are you going to do? Charge them $100s to use it? True, they should have definitely asked for permission, but then again, they're just making signatures for posting in a forum. Maybe if they made $$ of it it'd be a different story, but this is totally different. I just feel that it's not necessary to turn on the sirens and go berserk...
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:24 am

Quoting Continental (Reply 25):
Then what are you going to do? Charge them $100s to use it? True, they should have definitely asked for permission, but then again, they're just making signatures for posting in a forum. Maybe if they made $$ of it it'd be a different story, but this is totally different. I just feel that it's not necessary to turn on the sirens and go berserk...

Agree.
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:34 am

My friend told me that he sent an email to CO and AA about this. He said that CO sent it to some really important person. I don't see what the big deal is. I don't get why he emailed the airlines. He is worried if it goes to court he will have to be part of it. I was like what the f*** are you talking about??? I think he's a little paranoid.
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:38 am

I'm gonna have to agree as well. Put yourself in their place: you are going to be asked to shell out a fairly large sum of money for a little signature you made for fun. For all we know this is some kid without any source of income who probably doesn't have any idea about copyright law. Just tell them to take it down and inform them that what they did is illegal so they will think twice before doing it again.

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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:46 am

Wow, according to their website, it is not their fault and all we can do is spend a bunch of time getting them to remove the "stolen" photo and that will be the end of the matter. No way to get any money out of them for usage. You can try but good luck, unless they are stupid they will not send you anything.

Personally I really can't stand these flight sim people. If they like airplanes this much why don't they go out and learn to fly a real one instead of playing with games that are nothing like the real thing. Nearly every time I discover one of my photos is stolen it is by some flight sim nerd. They usually end up removing the photo but are never willing to pay for the use and it is never worth it to take them to any court because of the fees. Because of these people, whenever I do get any offers from anyone wanting to use my photos that has anything to do with flight sims I always decline or just don't respond.

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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:50 am

Quoting Atomother (Reply 29):
Personally I really can't stand these flight sim people. If they like airplanes this much why don't they go out and learn to fly a real one instead of playing with games that are nothing like the real thing. Nearly every time I discover one of my photos is stolen it is by some flight sim nerd. They usually end up removing the photo but are never willing to pay for the use and it is never worth it to take them to any court because of the fees. Because of these people, whenever I do get any offers from anyone wanting to use my photos that has anything to do with flight sims I always decline or just don't respond.

Some people don't have such money. I'm not sticking up for either side, as I do have my PPL, but it's just a simple fact.

Quoting Atomother (Reply 29):
Computers don't fly, planes do!

Ever heard of GPS...or more specifically, an airbus (fly by wire)?

One more thing to point out....airlines use simulators to train...imagine that! And yes, you can indeed make an FS sim have full motion if you wanted to. Some people are that extreme. Another reason why people don't fly real world is sometimes due to disablilties!

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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:03 am

Quoting Atomother (Reply 29):
Computers don't fly, planes do!

Correct me if I'm wrong but before an a/c can even start into production its built through computers. If you ever take a look in the back of a test a/c its full of computers that show what works what doesn't, what needs to be fixed, performance, etc.

Having seen your photos I know your familiar with the Citation. Those are now computer based. You can't have the damn thing certified without putting a 20k computer in the back to tell you when you're encountering terrain.

I fly frequently in 172's and mess around in flight sim's and I would have to say that regardless of the fact that you're not in an actual a/c its the closet some can get. Before pilots can be certified in an a/c they have to fly in sims...

I'm sorry but I don't agree with that comment.

Thanks,

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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:16 am

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 28):
Put yourself in their place: you are going to be asked to shell out a fairly large sum of money for a little signature you made for fun.

I think most photographers would have no problem doing it for free, with maybe photo credit.

I get emails all the time from people who only want to edit photos to put on that airplne edit site. I have no problem with it.

Again, all he had to do was ask.

All these discussions start debates about how/if the person if profiting from it, and if they are making profit, how do the photos contribute to it. Who cares? If you are robbed and they take nothing of value from your home, does that mean you should let it pass?

My camera equipment is expensive and I go through a lot to get a lot of my photos. Expensive trips, climbing near-vertical hills, standing on the edge of 60-foot cliffs, walking through ankle deep mudd and knee-high water, tresspassing, getting detained by police, paying money for transportation, sometimes cutting class or work and more.

The LEAST these people could do is send me a damn email to ask permission.

As photographers, ALL WE HAVE are these ethics to hold onto. Without that, we get fed to the wolves.

-Phil Derner Jr.
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:26 am

Quoting Atomother (Reply 29):
Wow, according to their website, it is not their fault and all we can do is spend a bunch of time getting them to remove the "stolen" photo and that will be the end of the matter.

What exactly did you expect? Do you think it would be alright to sue airliners.net if someone decided to post uuencoded MP3's here?
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:26 am

Quoting Atomother (Reply 29):
Personally I really can't stand these flight sim people. If they like airplanes this much why don't they go out and learn to fly a real one instead of playing with games that are nothing like the real thing. Nearly every time I discover one of my photos is stolen it is by some flight sim nerd. They usually end up removing the photo but are never willing to pay for the use and it is never worth it to take them to any court because of the fees. Because of these people, whenever I do get any offers from anyone wanting to use my photos that has anything to do with flight sims I always decline or just don't respond.

And alot of the people who caused us our trouble in DEN.....were from AvSim.
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:37 am

Phil,

Yes, ofcourse maybe they could send you an email to ask.
But in my opinion, it's just a small picture for signature use on forums.

And, for example I have a question and I need you photo to explain what I ask. And also draw some lines on the photo to make things more clear.
I post the question and the photo here on the forum or ANOTHER forum.

Would you be mad at me? At least I did not ask for permission to alter your photo and post it on a forum!

Regards,

Kar-lok
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:40 am

Quoting AA173HEAVY (Reply 17):
The whole fact that some people sell their photos off the site has worried me anyway. If the major airlines wanted to, they could either demand royalties from all sales of photos of their planes, or, worse yet, demand all photos of their equipment pulled from any sight that they don't control

Actually you're wrong. In America, if you are on public land and you take a photograph, you hold the copyright to that photograph. The airlines could threaten but they'd have no argument.

Quoting F9Widebody (Reply 34):
And alot of the people who caused us our trouble in DEN.....were from AvSim.

Yeah that wasn't really cool at all getting e-mails from these guys and then telling them exactly where not to go...only to find that they went there  gnasher 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:45 am

Quoting Karlok (Reply 35):
Would you be mad at me? At least I did not ask for permission to alter your photo and post it on a forum!

That is a difference from editing my photo and distributing it out to many people as though it's your own creation and using my photo as an informational reference.
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:49 am

Flyer732 is right, they are not making money from this. True it was wrong of them to remove the copyright bar and alter the photo, but in the end all that can really be done is to just ask them to remove the photo(s).

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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:39 am

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 32):
Expensive trips, climbing near-vertical hills, standing on the edge of 60-foot cliffs, walking through ankle deep mudd and knee-high water, tresspassing!!!, getting detained by police, paying money for transportation, sometimes cutting class or work and more.

Phil, I highly respect you and your work. I feel compelled, however to point something out.

You have used someone else's property without first asking their permission. And these flight sim guys have used someone else's property without first asking their permission. Yeah sure

I hope you see my point. I really think you should just ask them to take it down.

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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:50 pm

Yeah technically if you're tresspassing when you take the photo, you don't hold the copyright.
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:54 pm

Quoting Atomother (Reply 29):
They usually end up removing the photo but are never willing to pay for the use and it is never worth it to take them to any court because of the fees.

Thanks for the laugh. And what's wrong with FS? I think it's fun, and I also have my PPL. Though real flying is much better, it is considerably more costly.

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 32):
climbing near-vertical hills, standing on the edge of 60-foot cliffs, walking through ankle deep mudd and knee-high water

Geez, where are you shootin'? In the rainforest!?  Wink
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:28 pm

Construction sites and rocky shorelines. Quick changing tides, garbage everywhere, old weird wooden structures, swampy mudd, etc., right here on New York's Flushing Bay. lol
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:04 pm

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 39):
You have used someone else's property without first asking their permission. And these flight sim guys have used someone else's property without first asking their permission.

Umm explain to me how did he use Southwest's property? sarcastic  If pictures are taking in public places its perfectly legal to take them and use them. Now if you use the picture in a way that harms the airlines image than you will be in trouble.

Its perfectly legal to profit from the images that are taken from public property. The airlines cant do anything about it as they dont own the public land.

Woohoo, I still remember stuff from my Journalism/copyright Law class I took in college.  hyper 
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:14 pm

Quoting BigPhilNYC (Reply 32):
tresspassing,



Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 40):
Yeah technically if you're tresspassing when you take the photo, you don't hold the copyright.



Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 43):
Its perfectly legal to profit from the images that are taken from public property
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:13 pm

Turkish Charter companies use our photos without permission everytime.I talk this problem with this companies.But most of them are still using the photos.
If you have any Turkish Charter photos please look to their web pages.

Irfan Caliskan



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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:13 pm

Wow, thank you for pointing that out Irfan!!!  Wow!
They're to sue for sure...at least I guess Pegasus Airlines can be classified as a profit-making organisation?  irked 

Thanks,
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:07 pm

Some of you are paying too much attention and taking too literally my tresspassing comment.
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:21 am

Quoting Xpfg (Reply 30):
Ever heard of GPS...or more specifically, an airbus (fly by wire)?

Looks like I touched a nerve with the flight simmers out there... Good!


Quoting Killjoy (Reply 33):
What exactly did you expect? Do you think it would be alright to sue airliners.net if someone decided to post uuencoded MP3's here?

If someone was making copies of those MP3s and selling them or altering them and then spreading them to the rest of the world population I see nothing wrong with the person who made the original getting some compensation. Now if they are using the original on their home desktop then I have no problems with that.

[Edited 2005-04-25 18:45:47]
 
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RE: My Stolen Photo From Flight Sim Site

Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:58 am

My opinions in this matter won't be very popular, but I feel the need to wade in.

Who cares if some airplane geeks are using small versions of your photos for some sort of online name badge? Does it really matter?

I laugh when I see people get wound up when someone helps themselves to one of their photos, for personal use. Have you ever downloaded an MP3? Ripped a CD? Copied a movie from your TV? Cut and pasted an article from a news site?

My guess is someone taking an image, cropping it, and making a name badge out of it would fall under "fair use."

If you don't want people playing with your images the only safe thing to do is not put them online.

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