senorcarnival
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Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:29 am

I was spotting at KAUS earlier this afternoon and saw three military aircrafts. Does anyone know where I can look up their tail numbers? I've gone through many a sites with no success. Thanks!
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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:49 am

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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:43 am

Thanks Wietse, I haven't found what I'm looking for yet, but it's definitely a huge help!
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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:15 pm

What exactly are you looking for? Or you mean that you didnt find the tailnumber you were looking for?
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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:19 pm

I didn't find the tailnumber. Actually, none of the formats on that DB match what I saw. I saw an "XL (1) 844" (couldn't exactly tell due to heat haze) on the tail and it clearly says U.S. Air Force on it, but all the formats on that DB show it as a CC or OH format for USAF jets.
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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:31 pm

The CC or OH are just examples. According to the database, all XL coded aircraft are T-6 prop trainers. Can you show the photo to us?
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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:10 pm

Here's the link to the first one, in case you get the red x of death:
http://www.pbase.com/image/42671127
http://jiki.pbase.com/u17/senorcarnival/upload/42671127.usaf1.jpg
The second set took off in pairs:
http://www.pbase.com/image/42671186
http://jiki.pbase.com/u17/senorcarnival/upload/42671186.usaf3.jpg
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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:35 pm

USAF tail numbers actually come in the format xx-yyyy where xx is the last two digits of the year of procurement (to keep it simple), and yyyy is a number (It is most often 0yyy but that is not a guarantee). Problem is, nobody ever puts the entire number in that format in any useful locations on the aircraft. For ACC aircraft, it is most often the last 3 digits displayed prominently on the tail preceded by a smaller 'AF' and the year 'xx'. That is the case with the T-38's in your pictures. What you would do is go to http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/usafserials.html (appears to be down as I type), figure out what years you could be looking at (unless you can see by magnifying the pictures), and look for T-38's that end in the 3 digits. It is possible but unlikely that there would be more than one possibility. The two large letters on the tail are typically indicators of the wing/base the aircraft is assigned to.


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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:14 pm

The tail of the first one definitely says -844. According to http://www.aero-web.org/specs/northrop/t-38a.htm , the only T-38's that end in -844 are 61-0844 and 67-14844. According to scramble, 61-0844 is no longer active, and 67-14844 is active, with an XL tailcode. My money's on that one being 67-14844.

Second photo, left:
-750 appears to yield only 62-3750. Scramble lists that with an RA tailcode, but Scramble may just not yet be aware of a relocation of that aircraft. In the absence of another known serial ending in -750 (You're free to look yourself), 62-3750 is my guess.

Second photo, right:
Having an A2, I know it shoots higher-res than that. In the original, can you clearly tell what the middle digit is? -8*8 leaves a lot of possibilities. Or is that a full-res crop of the original?
 
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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:37 pm

Quoting LeanOfPeak (Reply 8):
Having an A2,

Oh so you're the other one... Big grin
How higher res (without going into TIFF or RAW) can you get than 3264 and Extra Fine though? Would it make any noticeable difference if I shot in 3264 3:2?

Quoting LeanOfPeak (Reply 8):
Or is that a full-res crop of the original?

Yes.

After examining the original, that other one is either 818 or 808, or the least likely, 8118. Email me if you want to take a look at the original.
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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:21 pm

If it's a full-res crop, I don't think the original will do much good. I just didn't know it was a full-res crop. That zoom does run out a little early, doesn't it... 

If you were shooting 3264, there is no higher res. 3264 3:2 is essentially like letterboxing on your TV to show a 16:9 format movie. It just throws away pixels at the top and bottom so that the image is in an SLR aspect ratio.

I shoot RAW, but I don't think it would have helped much in this case. The heat haze is just too much. The A2, like every other digital camera I've ever used, does too much in-camera sharpening for my taste in JPG mode on default settings, and you might try rolling the sharpening back a little and seeing how you like it if you don't want to shoot RAW. That said, it's the heat haze that's obscuring that middle digit, and most of what I don't like about the shots is the heat haze.

As for the identification of the third plane, the only -808 T-38 listed is denoted as withdrawn from use by Scramble. The only -818 is listed as stored. 67-14838, 67-14848, and 67-14858 are possibilities.

[Edited 2005-04-28 08:27:54]
 
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RE: Military DBs

Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:30 pm

I shot those in hard sharpening. That's probably why you got that impression of the oversharpening. The A2 produces extremely soft pictures, IMHO. I used a teleconverter on those shots, btw, b/c that 200mm zoom would run out REALLY soon..
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RE: Military DBs

Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:17 am

The Tail codes you are looking at denote the Airbase that the machines are based at and are changed when a machine moves to a different base.

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RE: Military DBs

Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:27 am

This link explains how they work!

http://www.globemaster.de/tailcodes.html

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