ArmitageShanks
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Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:52 am

Hey everyone.

I just got a Minolta X-370 with a 50mm f1.7 lens and I want to mess around with slide film. I really have no clue how it differs from regular print film. I was wondering if any of you can point me in the right direction where I can find some advice on what to do.

Of you slide shooters, what should I do to get the basics down? I don't want to do any aviation photography, btw.
 
N101AA
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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:06 am

Quoting ArmitageShanks (Thread starter):
I don't want to do any aviation photography

Then why post in an Aviation Photography forum? There are plenty of other places on the 'net to get photography advice...
 
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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:55 am

Quoting N101AA (Reply 1):
Then why post in an Aviation Photography forum? There are plenty of other places on the 'net to get photography advice...

I thought people int he photography forum had respect! Bah!

Weel Armitageshanks, the best slide film to really show off the colours is undoubtedly Fuji Velvia...... try it, or Fuji Provia out to get the most amazing colours (with correct exposure ofcourse) that you will see..... especially great for landscapes! Other than that, Kodak Ektachrome (spelling?) and Kodachrome are the best general-use colour slide films.... off to be dnow, but if you need more help,. just ask!

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:14 pm

Quoting N101AA (Reply 1):
Then why post in an Aviation Photography forum? There are plenty of other places on the 'net to get photography advice...

Yeah, what the hell is this about?

Whatever...

Pinning the exposure just right is most important. There is no Photoshop here. It has to be spot on. For the rest it is just a matter of personal preference.

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:29 pm

Thanks to all of you that have advised me so far. It seems bracketing would be ideal for slide film. I shall get some Fuji Velvia and Fuji Provia and see how those come out.
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N101AA, you waste two of your 8 total posts to tell me off? Nice.

I figured I would get more mileage in the PHOTOGRAPHY forum than the non-aviation forum. Maybe you should suggest deletion of this thread.

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timdegroot
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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:28 pm

Try bracketing your exposure, by -0.3 stops.

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:57 pm

Hi,
Yes bracketing is important... wish I had done it more often when shooting slide film. Biggest thing to remember is it does not have the latitude of negative film... but when you get everything right.. you will be blown away by the image!!

regards

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:03 pm

With regard to slide film, it's better to err on the side of underexposure. A good deal of details can be retrieved from the dark areas of an underexposed slide when you put it through a scanner and make the right adjustments. Whereas for an over-exposed slide, the details lost in the overblown highlights tend to be irrecoverable. That's just my experience.

Oh BTW, avoid Velvia if you're photographing people. The intense colors and contrast of Velvia will make your subjects look weird and unnatural.

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:32 pm

Quoting N949WP (Reply 7):
Oh BTW, avoid Velvia if you're photographing people. The intense colors and contrast of Velvia will make your subjects look weird and unnatural.

Agreed. My dad shoots on 35mm and put a Velvia 100 roll through his Minolta Dynax 5 last summer. The colours were horrible. Very, very saturated.

Stick to Fuji Provia 100F if you're wanting the very best quality and accurate colours. It's one of (if not the) finest grain films on the market.

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ArmitageShanks
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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:40 am

Thanks. I would be using it for people photography more than anything, so I guess I will stick with Provia 100F.
 
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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:47 am

You'll get some top results with that 50mm 1.7 - should look beautiful if you're doing portrait work.

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:50 am

Quoting MartinairYYZ (Reply 2):
the best slide film to really show off the colours is undoubtedly Fuji Velvia

Yes but your equipment needs to be top with a fast lens.

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 8):
My dad shoots on 35mm and put a Velvia 100

Velvia 100 ? thought Velvia comes in 50 only..... in my days as slide shooter for sure.
Most common for aviation is Kodak K64 though although I never liked it.
Personally I have always been in favor of Velvia which I used with an ISO setting of 40 but I would recommend it to you as a first time user because they are expensive.
My advice would be to go for Provia 100 and/or 400F both are very good and a bit more allround.

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:17 am

Velvia 100 is a new slidefilm Willem  Wink

If you want to start off, just use Sensia. A little more grain, but much cheaper.

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:41 am

Quoting Wietse (Reply 12):
Velvia 100 is a new slidefilm Willem

A very nice way to say you "old bugger"    Wietse 
Still in the US ? .......... let's hope they keep you there   
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ps. still i think Provia F is the best option, it's not expensive and a lot better then Sensia........ in my days of course.  Smile

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:08 am

From what I've heard the current Ektachrome is pretty good. Never tried it myself though.

Provia is the best allrounder I think, and you can push to 200 without much problems. Personally I don't like Provia's color and find it somewhat softer in the edges than K64, which is still my film of choice.

Plan to do more slideshooting myself this summer, there's just something magical to it that you don't get with digital Wink

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:11 am

I don't like ektachrome, I found the colours to be a bit "milky" and low contrast compared to provia and kodachrome.

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First T

Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:29 am

Being a slides-only guy, I agree with the others. Velvia can be great for nature, especially flowers, but my main film is Provia 100F. It has the sharpness and cost of KR64 (or even a bit lower) but the speed and easiness of development of Sensia - in Europe, that is. For test purposes, shoot away with Sensia at half the price, and expect to adapt only to its quality when changing to Provia.

Exposure generally is equal to negative film, with the already made very important remark that if being a bit off you should be on the dark side. I hardly ever bracket, only when in real doubt. With your typical aircraft against a bright grey sky-situation a +.7 correction usually does the trick. Spot metering is tricky and has to be used really well, but center-weighted metering can do magic for moving aircraft.

Enjoy!
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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:36 pm

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 11):
Personally I have always been in favor of Velvia which I used with an ISO setting of 40

Never quite understood this, Always been told, and had great success with slide film like EK100 etc by underexposing a bit ie setting EK100 at ISO125. Setting Velvia50 at ISO40 would result in overexposure.. at least in my understanding.

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RE: Advice For Shooting Slide Film For The First Time.

Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:44 am

"Thanks. I would be using it for people photography more than anything..."

Get somebody to loan you an 85 or 105 mm lens. When you try it you'll probably prefer it to the 50 mm.

I think you'll eventually find bracketing isn't as vital as guys make it sound. Shoot a scene twice, a half-stop apart, and many times you won't be able to decide which one you like better. In other words, "correct" exposure isn't always obvious. If you're out in the sun you'll eventually learn what exposure works there and then you can just stick with that, maybe making slight adjustments for the sun's altitude above the horizon.

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