fergulmcc
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A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 4:21 pm

Hi All  wave 

My good friend Paul Markman (Psych) has asked me to host this photo of his as he would like to upload it but needs a little help with the indentification, reg, s/n, owner etc. etc.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,  bigthumbsup 

Fergul Big grin  sun 

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andrewuber
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 4:26 pm

What a great, vibrant shot! Looks too small to be a Stearman... sorry I can't help ID the bird but I sure do like the photo! Good luck with it!

Drew

Are the pilots wearing O2 masks?!?

[Edited 2005-05-20 09:27:41]
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 4:28 pm

Quoting Fergulmcc (Thread starter):
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I do believe that is some kind of Airplane.
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 4:32 pm

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 2):
do believe that is some kind of Airplane.

 rotfl  Nice to see a bit of humour in the forums, Nice one Eric

Fergul  sun 

PS I too thought this was a cracking shot, so vibrant, glad I suggested to Paul to show it, Great shot Paul!!
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dendrobatid
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 4:39 pm

Not like Paul being shy...
It is G-BRUJ

Registration: G-BRUJ Current Reg. Date: 18/11/2004
Previous ID: N55557 First Reg. Date: 09/11/1994
Status: Registered
Manufacturer: BOEING AIRPLANE CO
Type: BOEING A75N1 (MODIFIED)
Serial No.: 75-4299
Mode S (hex):
Popular Name: STEARMAN
Generic Name: 75
Aircraft Class: FIXED-WING LANDPLANE
Engines: 1 - 1 x LYCOMING R-680-E3A
Looks like it was photographed at Barton, the owner lives near Liverpool and has two dogs (only joking, he only has one)

Mick Bajcar
 
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 4:50 pm

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 4):
It is G-BRUJ

How in the world did you get that Mick, You have to tell me your secret.

Fergul 

PS Thanks a mil for the info !

[Edited 2005-05-20 09:51:15]
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 4:54 pm

Firstly, many thanks to Fergul for hosting this photo, posting the thread and his encouragement last night.

I have about 4 photos of this aircraft - all taken as he was taxiing to the 27 hold at Liverpool last November. I hadn't done anything with them because I felt flummoxed as to what I was looking at and couldn't see how to search for the registration. Interestingly, I had thought Stearman, but didn't feel confident enough to go further due the reg. issue (plus I'm not a card-carrying spotter). I have been fed up in the past not being able to host stuff - I do actually have some web space for photos with my provider (BT Internet), but I have pulled my hair out (what is left of it) trying to work out what the address is for the webspace  biggrin  - still in the dark on that one. So would be grateful for any help with that whilst I'm on this subject.

Mick - how the devil do you know it is that aircraft? What is the tell-tale sign?

Once I know the details for sure do you think it is worth a submission then?

Thanks.

Paul
 
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 4:59 pm

Dead simple
First you have to know and love these oldies so that you instantly recognise that it is a Stearman (as did Drew too)
Paul lives near Manchester and it looked like Barton to me.....
I went to the CAA register and put in Stearman and about 20 came up.
Looked at the addresses of the owners and one hit me as being Liverpool, ie not too far from Barton
Looked at the photo and got it first time.
Used directory enquiries and rang him to find out about the dog (joking)
(I have occasionally actually rung an owner)
30+ years a Cop ?
Mick
 
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 4:59 pm

Quoting Psych (Reply 6):
Once I know the details for sure do you think it is worth a submission then?

Absadooblylootly there Paul Big grin

Take care

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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 5:02 pm

I got the airport wrong then, but the aircraft is right.
If you go to the CAA register, they have photos...though not as good as that one.
Mick
 
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 5:05 pm

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 7):
Used directory enquiries and rang him to find out about the dog

 rotfl 

Does he have a boxer?

Fergul Big grin

PS Well done Mick, Thanks!
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 5:11 pm

....... and Paul, thankfully they are looking the other way, so you shouldn't suffer from 'badpeople' - sorry, couldn't resist!

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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 5:19 pm

OK I sit corrected. I guess the helmets made the pilots seem bigger than they are. A Stearman is a pretty big airplane!

DREW
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Psych
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 5:26 pm

Quoting Malandan (Reply 11):
and Paul, thankfully they are looking the other way, so you shouldn't suffer from 'badpeople'

Already had that thought Malcolm - though they are a bit more visible in another of the shots.

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 7):
Dead simple

Mick - not enough clarity for me there, my friend  wink . Did you mean 'G-INFO'? If so, I didn't think it was possible to get information just on the basis of the aircraft type. Am I mistaken there - if so, what exactly did you input?

But you are definitely right about this one - well done and thanks. I did look hard at all my photos and could see nothing to give me any clues about the UK registration. I would have assumed that you would be required to display the registration somewhere, a bit like vehicles. Am I wrong about this?

Take care.

Paul
 
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 6:24 pm

Hi Paul

In Google I typed the letters N2S-3 which shows on the blue section of the tail, and the following website came top of the list, check out the photos at the bottom of the page.
http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/stearman/n2s-3.htm

Nice photo btw

Cheers

Ian
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 9:21 pm

Quoting Psych (Reply 13):
I didn't think it was possible to get information just on the basis of the aircraft type.

Paul
The site is G-INFO
One glance and I knew it was a Stearman, and yes, you can search just by type, a very useful feature. The G-INFO includes a common name feature unless most official registers I have encountered.
I inputted Stearman and about 20 Stearman appeared so it took no finding.
I might be very sad, but I was able to write quite a few off that I knew it not to be so I checked the owners addresses based on knowing where you lived. The first one I checked the photo of was the right one. If you were looking for a Cessna 172 or something like that, it could probably be done but would take an eternity.
The aircraft has an exemption from carrying its civil registration due to its military livery.
Something to be said for these oldies isn't there ?
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Fri May 20, 2005 9:51 pm

Interesting stuff there Ian and Mick - thanks for that.

I see there is only one photo of this aircraft in the database. Maybe it is going to be worthwhile to edit the photos and upload. Also, Mick, you were in the right ball-park, as that shot was taken at Barton.

As you have gathered, I am no expert here, but I certainly don't want to upload a photo only to get it knocked back for badinfo. I just had a play with the upload feature and the following comes up, based on that 1 photo. Does it look right:

Generic Type: Boeing PT-13/17/27/N2S Kaydet (75)

Specific: Boeing PT-17 Kaydet (A75N1).

Cheers.

Paul
 
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Mon May 30, 2005 8:35 pm

Thanks to all for your help with this photo - particular thanks to Fergul and Mick.

For anyone interested, it has now been added to the database.


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Photo © Paul Markman



Cheers.

Paul
 
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RE: A/C Indentification Help Needed

Mon May 30, 2005 11:42 pm

You're welcome Paul

Glad to see it the DB, where it belongs!

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