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Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 12:02 am

Hey click happys,

I was flying home on SAS today when I had the perfect chance to get an air to air shot  Silly, sadly I was eating and didn't catch the MD-82 going past us but then 15 mins later I got another chance  Wink This time a LH 744 came directly toward us and I had my camera handy.

Now im not great with editing and not great with a steady hand. But I have a feeling this could be a baddistance resulting in a rejection  Sad this is the best quality I can get from my editing standards it has been handed to professionals since... But what are the standards to an air to air shot for acceptance?

Here's the shot...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/kazkaz/luftey744air2aircopy.jpg

yes yes im aware of the dust spots not edited them out yet....

Any feed back appreciated  Smile

Kaz x
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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 12:16 am

Nice try, but I'm afraid this won't make it, it looks blurry/heathazed.

Cheers
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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 12:36 am

Hi

Not so much bad distance but blurry and full of dust spots.

Regards

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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 1:21 am

i see some sort of... shaddow of the contrail? just below it, whats that from the double glazing?
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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 2:58 am

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/ua777222/luftey744air2aircopy.jpg

Just some that I could find. Sorry I used blue for the color.

Thanks,

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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 3:04 am

Cheers guys I said I hadn't sorted the dust spots yet but thanks anyway  Silly

Ah well shame it cant be edited to A.net standard my heart was racing when I saw this beast coming and had the camera armed and ready  Smile

Maybe next time...

Kaz  Wink
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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 3:12 am

Kaz,

what lens did you use for that photo. I always wonder if people would react when putting the 100-400mm against the window Big grin

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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 3:12 am

Although it may not make it to the Airliners.Net Database...It is a really great Picture.

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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 3:15 am

Quoting Apuneger (Reply 6):
what lens did you use for that photo. I always wonder if people would react when putting the 100-400mm against the window

100-400  Wink I got a few funny looks and the Cabin crew had a strange look on there face when they went past  Wink
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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 3:28 am

here's a bit bigger image because it was resized in the forums and in the process showed a bunch of jaggies:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/kazkaz/luftey744air2aircopy.jpg

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 1):
Nice try, but I'm afraid this won't make it, it looks blurry/heathazed.

Blurry yes, but is it even possible to have heat haze at cruise altitude?
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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 4:06 am

Kaz, if you want to send the original to my mail, I'd like to give it a try.

Quoting Pilot kaz (Reply 5):
my heart was racing when I saw this beast coming

I know that feeling, though air to air is EVEN more frustrating than panning  Smile

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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 4:22 am

If you can't get it up to A.net standards, you ought to at least put it up on MyAviation.

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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 4:57 am

Quoting Apuneger (Reply 6):
what lens did you use for that photo. I always wonder if people would react when putting the 100-400mm against the window

I did something like that on my flight to LHR on a BA 319. We were in holding and I saw a BA 757 flying next to and VERY CLOSE to us. I quickly got out my cam (300D + 70-200 with that black hood on it). As the 757 was kind of above us, I was sitting on the ground and halfway under the seat in front of me.
It took me some time to explain the Canadian lady sitting next to me what I was doing haha 


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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 9:27 am

Aircraft windows are a real pain to shoot through. Every time I try to get an air-to-air I shoot about 50 to 100 frames and maybe one or two work out. Flightdeck windows play extra havoc due to the heating elements and squashed bugs!

Whenever I pull out my 100-400 to try snap one I have to endure the 'compensation' jokes about the size of my......car.
 
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RE: Standards On Air To Air Pics

Mon May 23, 2005 5:45 pm

I am no expert on this though I have recently had a few air to ground shots accepted, the first I've taken in years.
The window glass is a pain and vibration is also a problem. The dilemma is that you need to get as close as possible to the glass to minimise its effects but you must not actually touch it as the vibration of the aircraft is then transmitted to the camera (try it, you really can feel it) and that would only exaggerate the problem when using a long lens. I actually use the heel of my hand to keep the camera a mm or so off the window. A rubber lens hood would undoubtedly be even better for keeping cabin reflections down too.
Heat haze at 30+ thousand feet and a temperature of -40C, I think not.
Vibration is however a definate maybe.
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