glapira
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100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:21 am

Hello all!
I just got my 100-400L for my Canon 300D and went take some shots in Barajas (LEMD). The results are amazing but I still need to practice with it and get used to its dimensions.

Here I post a shot that I just uploaded. Hope you'll like it.

Kind Regards..

Giorgio La Pira

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/IMG_2599.jpg

P.D.

This shot is especially dedicated to Ander... he knows why...
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:24 am

Quality is looking its part. 100-400 sure IS a nice lens. It isn't level though. Use the apartment buildings in the background to level it off.

Perhaps the runway slopes, but I don't care  Wink It looks unlevel.
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:24 am

it IS unlevel Smile Nice shot otherwise!

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:27 am

Yeah looks unlevel. Great shot otherwise!

I was blown away with the results from my first 100-400 outing last August. So I know how it feels!  Smile

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:28 am

One other thing, did you use NeatImage? The grass in the foreground looks weird, but that could just be the motion blur.
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:31 am

Quoting Glapira (Thread starter):
100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

I got one.... How about "Almost"?

As in "almost as nice" as the 300L 2.8..!

I've used the 100-400 for over a year now, it's nice, but that damn 300 2.8 will make you cry.  Wink
 
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:32 am

Quoting Glapira (Thread starter):
This shot is especially dedicated to Ander... he knows why...

Sure is a present from Ander  tongue 

Take care

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 2:49 pm

Hey....add me too! I have just joined the 100-400 owners club. I purchased on on ebay for my 10D. Picture quality is excellent! And some big air shows coming up for me next month!

I do have some pics that I shot with it, but for now all my queue slots are taken with 75-300 lens pictures. It'll be probably another week or 2 till the first of my 100-400L pics show up in the queue.

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 3:28 pm

What f/stop do you all normally shoot at with the 100-400 to get the best quality?

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 4:24 pm

Hello all!

You were totally right... Probably, I drunk toom much or something like that when I edited it. Here is the new version. 100-400 L is amazing... and the image stabilizer helps a lot especially on pannings!

Here is the link.

Thanks!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/cristalerajumbo_2599.jpg
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 4:27 pm

Quoting TWAMD-80 (Reply 8):
What f/stop do you all normally shoot at with the 100-400 to get the best quality?

Stopped down to f.8 it usually gives the best results!

Florian
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 6:01 pm

Here is the post I created when I first got my 100-400. I was completely over the moon with the results I got!

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...ation_photography/read.main/145044

Cheers,
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:10 pm

I don't want to rain on the 100-400 parade, but it has some flaws that should be considered before buying one. As mentioned above, the lens is barely usable with a larger stop than f/8. The quality with f/5.6 at 400mm is outrageous. This is ironic because the image stabilizer isn't of much use if you have to stop down to get an acceptable quality.

Keep also in mind that not every 100-400 is the same. My first one was very sharp even at 400mm. It had however that notorious f/0 error when shooting against the sun under hazy conditions. So I sent it to the repair shop, waited almost 2 months, called Canon several times & got eventually a replacement. The new lens wasn't as sharp as the old one, but had the f/0 error as well. I sent it to the repair shop, & after a few weeks it came back with a message saying it was tested in the lab & no error could be found. I clearly had written that the error only occurs under sunny & hazy/rainy/snowy conditions. So much for the Canon service.

If I could choose again I'd go for the 400 f/5.6 (non-IS).

Thomas

[Edited 2005-05-28 12:16:02]
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:11 pm

Justine looking at your pics in that thread you posted they look nice and crisp .
I have read reviews that claim the 100-400 is a tad soft at the 3 to 400 mark .
Can you give us your opinion on this lens .
And the sharpness at that focal length
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 7:23 pm

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 13):
Justine looking at your pics in that thread you posted they look nice and crisp .

Thanks for the comments, the D30 + 100-400 was an excellent combo. But my name is Justin!

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 13):
I have read reviews that claim the 100-400 is a tad soft at the 3 to 400 mark .
Can you give us your opinion on this lens .
And the sharpness at that focal length

Personally I haven't had too many issues with sharpness between 3 & 400mm. If there has been a soft shot, it hasn't been to the point where I wasn't able to be give it a little kick of USM in Photoshop. I would say my copy of the lens is a "good one".

Cheers,
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 9:45 pm

I own the 100-400 and have used it now for around 1.5 years. I am selling mine now as i have upgraded to the 120-300 from sigma. I am going to add a 400F5.6L to go with it so that i have 400mm.

I do agree that the 100-400 is soft at 300-400mm. About 50% of the time it can be sorted with USM the rest it jsut isnt worth it. While i do like the lens, i have never got on with it perfectly. I would ahve also choose the 400F5.6L if i could do again.

That said, i am glad i bought it and i do like the lens. Just for me now i think i have got to the point where i want a little more.

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sat May 28, 2005 11:22 pm

Hi all,

I wouldnt mind seeing out of interest some full size unedited 100-400 Canon DSLR shots to judge for myself if any one has a little time and some webspace?

Cheers

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sun May 29, 2005 5:34 am

Quoting TS (Reply 12):
I'd go for the 400 f/5.6

Yes, primes may have better quality than zoom's, but prime lenses simply don't give you the flexibility you often need in aviation photography.

You have to plan your photo shoots well before the subject you want to capture arrives if you only have the fixed focal length of 400mm. Zoom lenses give you way more freedom - That is why for aviation photography, I'd choose a 70-200 or a 100-400 over a prime in the same range any time. For sports or feature photography, primes rule!  Smile

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Sun May 29, 2005 7:40 am

Quoting INNflight (Reply 17):
Yes, primes may have better quality than zoom's, but prime lenses simply don't give you the flexibility you often need in aviation photography.

You have to plan your photo shoots well before the subject you want to capture arrives if you only have the fixed focal length of 400mm. Zoom lenses give you way more freedom

I didn't recommend any lens, I just said what I would do. I don't need flexibility since most of my shots are 400mm anyways.

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Mon May 30, 2005 2:11 pm

Quoting INNflight (Reply 17):
That is why for aviation photography, I'd choose a 70-200 or a 100-400 over a prime in the same range any time

Oh Florian, you are missing out. I have been shooting with primes for a long time now, you just have to plan your shots well in advance........no loss of flexibility!!!!

The 100-400 may be nice but the push pull feature is something I don't like.
Not real fast glass, once you get used to shoot with 2.8, anything slower than that, forget about it!


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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Mon May 30, 2005 4:11 pm

Hi all

The 100-400 may be a nice lens but I would not say it's fantastic.

I got just as good a result with the Sigma 170-500 which has been sold now.

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Mon May 30, 2005 4:19 pm

Quoting Granite (Reply 20):
The 100-400 may be a nice lens but I would not say it's fantastic.

I totally agree Gary, the Sigma range is on par with the 100-400.
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Mon May 30, 2005 4:57 pm

Quoting Granite (Reply 20):
I got just as good a result with the Sigma 170-500 which has been sold now.

You must have some VERY nice hands if you were able to do that! I have both lenses and actually "upgraded" to a 100-400 over my 170-500mm. Congrats to you if you were able to do that! (Then again I shake more than a stripper)

Thanks,

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Mon May 30, 2005 5:38 pm

Hi Matt

Yes, I have nice hands.....well so the girls have told me anyway  Smile

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Mon May 30, 2005 6:59 pm

Quoting AKE0404AR (Reply 19):
you just have to plan your shots well in advance........no loss of flexibility!!!!

That is what I call a contradictory statement indeed  Smile

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Mon May 30, 2005 8:22 pm

Hey Justin sorry about the typo  Sad
All the best and thanks for your reply .
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Mon May 30, 2005 9:20 pm

Quoting AKE0404AR (Reply 19):
Quoting INNflight (Reply 17):
That is why for aviation photography, I'd choose a 70-200 or a 100-400 over a prime in the same range any time

Oh Florian, you are missing out.

Ok Vasco, maybe I have to correct that statement a bit... I'd choose a 70-200 or a 100-400 over a prime in the same range any time because of flexibility and the lack of money for a 400 2.8L  Wink

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Tue May 31, 2005 6:23 pm

Justin Wood has very kindly let me use his 100-400 for some shots on various occasions. I've been so familiar with the 70-200 at Southampton it was really interesting to get a chance to work with the increased options more focal length gives.

I find the lens good at 400mm, but I'm no expert as it's the only gear I've tried with this zoom. The IS helped me alot though. I try to get a little prop blur on the TP's these days and it was fun trying this with image stabilisation:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/GJECH_SOU_20050530.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/PHJXJ_SOU_20050530.jpg

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:25 am

After using Matt Hom's lens yesterday, I am going to have to find a way to accelerate my plan to purchase this lens. Hehe, fantastic glass!

You guys think it is worth holding onto a 70-200 f/4 once you have upgraded to the 100-400?? I was just thinking I'd get the 100-400 and something to fill the 55-100 gap and sell the 70-200......

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:49 am

Quoting F9Widebody (Reply 28):
You guys think it is worth holding onto a 70-200 f/4 once you have upgraded to the 100-400??

Absolutely. I have both, and I wouldn't get rid of either. The sharpness of the 70-200 is simply astounding, and for that reason alone, I am going to hold onto it forever. Only when I need big zoom does the 100-400 come out of the bag.

FWIW, the 100-400 seems a touch soft compared to the 70-200. Still a great lens though.
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:03 pm

Quoting Scooter (Reply 29):
The sharpness of the 70-200 is simply astounding, and for that reason alone, I am going to hold onto it forever.

Scooter, I have owned the 70-200 for about alittle over a month, I would have to agree with you on the sharpness of the 70-200, the focusing speed is also amazing. The quality of this Canon lens has now convinced me to purchase the 100-400L IS lens for longer focal lengths. Fellow photographer Danny Fritsche let me play with his 100-400L IS and I liked it, the only drawback for me was the push pull concept on the lens but I will learn to deal with it.

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:16 pm

Quoting Spartan13 (Reply 30):
the only drawback for me was the push pull concept on the lens but I will learn to deal with it.

Actually I find the push pull to be faster once you get used to it.

Quoting LGW (Reply 16):
wouldnt mind seeing out of interest some full size unedited 100-400 Canon DSLR shots to judge for myself if any one has a little time and some webspace?

The problem with this is that you can change the in camera sharpening and change the way the picture looks all together.
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:32 pm

Quoting Spartan13 (Reply 30):
the only drawback for me was the push pull concept on the lens but I will learn to deal with it.

No draw back whatsoever. I used to shoot with the sigma 170-500 and that thing was soooooo stiff that I used the push/pull method. Albeit it wasn't the smartest thing to do in the world but worked fine for the period of time that I had it. And b/c it's soooo smooth you'll get used to it. Just remember to tighten it when you put it around your neck or when you bend over and the lens starts to fall you'll poop your pants.

Thanks,

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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:49 pm

Quoting F9Widebody (Reply 28):
After using Matt Hom's lens yesterday, I am going to have to find a way to accelerate my plan to purchase this lens. Hehe, fantastic glass!

Make sure you test other lenses in the range before you make such a big purchase. If I was you, I'd also look into the Sigma 50-500, nearly half the price and it still offers the same sharpness you would get with the 100-400.
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RE: 100-400L, No Words To Describe It...

Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:09 pm

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 15):
i have upgraded to the 120-300 from sigma

I tried this lens yesterday and I must say that the thing is huge and quite heavy! But at the same time, it looked like a true gem.

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