dc10tim
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Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:59 pm

Hi everyone,

I wondered if anyone in here could help me identify some shots of airfields taken through the plane window. They're not a.net quality (not that I could upload them if they were Big grin) as they're all a bit hazy, but I'd like to know where they are.

The first was taken shortly before an 08R landing at LGW:

http://timgoodwin.myphotoalbum.com/v...set_albumName=album08&id=airfield1

This one was taken a few minutes before the one above, so it could be anywhere over southern England:

http://timgoodwin.myphotoalbum.com/v...set_albumName=album08&id=airfield2

This one was taken south of Birmingham, but before we reached Oxford, could it be Coventry?:

http://timgoodwin.myphotoalbum.com/v...set_albumName=album08&id=airfield3

As ever, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tim.
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:16 pm

Tim,

Airfield 1 is (I think!) Dunsfold, Surrey which is located between Horsham in West Sussex and Guildford in Surrey. The aircraft you can see is G-BDXJ 747-200 formely of Air Atlanta now used for film work.

Airfield 2 is (I think) Farnborough but that really is a guess

Airfield 3 is (I think) Coventry

Be interested to know what airfields they are

Cheers

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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:50 pm

2nd definitely isn't farnborough!  Wink. What it is though, I couldn't tell you..
 
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:51 pm

Airfield1: Dunsfold - EGTD

Airfield2: Benson AB - EGUB

Airfield3: Cottesmore AB - EGXJ

Hope this helps!  Smile

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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:14 pm

I agree that:

Airfield 1 is Dunsfold

Airfield 2 is Benson

Not convinced Nr.3 is Cottesmore.
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dc10tim
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:21 pm

Thanks guys,

I feel pretty confident the first one is Dunsfold, looking at the map Benson looks likely for the second one, but I must be honest, I don't think the last is RAF Cottesmore.

Cottesmore is near Oakham in Rutland. That shot was taken south of Birmingham, over the Warickshire area. We'd be too far south and west for it to be Cottesmore.

Regards,

Tim.
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:23 pm

Nr.3 is Upper Heyford

Edit: Map link added

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[Edited 2005-06-19 15:30:34]
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:35 pm

Im not to sure about cottesmore now, the shorter runway goes the opersit way.. Ive just had alook within Flight Sim and the only place i can find in respect to the arial photo, is Upper Hayford.

Edit: beat me to it!  Smile

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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:37 pm

Quoting Sean377 (Reply 6):
Nr.3 is Upper Heyford

So it is. I have an atlas in front of me now and the road in the distance is the M40 and you can see beyond the airfield where the A43 goes off up towards Northampton.

I reckon we must have been travelling on a route between Honiley and Cowly past here.

It's fascinating me trying to piece everything together and find out where all these places are. Thanks for your help guys.

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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:39 pm

Just out of interest Tim, where was the flight from?

Sean
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:42 pm

It was MAN-LGW, so we'd only be at about 19,000ft when the shots of Benson and Upper Hayford were taken.

Although it was hazy, it's not very often you get to see the ground all the way across England, so I took loads of pictures.

Tim.
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:14 pm

If you're interested, I've just had a look in the UK Standard Route Document.

It lists the preferred route EGCC-EGKK as:

EGCC - HONILY SID - N859 - KIDLI - WILLO 3B STAR - EGKK

The max altitude for the route is FL195 and aircraft must be at FL150 by KIDLI (KIDLI is a reporting point about 3NM West of Oxford).

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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:52 pm

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 5):
Cottesmore is near Oakham in Rutland. That shot was taken south of Birmingham, over the Warickshire area. We'd be too far south and west for it to be Cottesmore.

Coventry is North of Birmingham, so the third one can't be Coventry.

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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:55 pm

Quoting SignalOne (Reply 12):
Coventry is North of Birmingham, so the third one can't be Coventry.

???

I take it you never liked geography at school!  Silly
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:00 am

Coventry is South East of Brummieland  Wink
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:09 am

Quoting DC10Tim (Thread starter):
This one was taken south of Birmingham , but before we reached Oxford, could it be Coventry?:



Quoting SignalOne (Reply 12):
Coventry is North of Birmingham, so the third one can't be Coventry.

Oh, I could of swore when I went to Coventry a few months ago, traveling from the North, Coventry was before Birmingham and that's why I said North. I have always thought of it being North of Birmingham. After looking at a map, I was wrong. Its to the South East of Birmingham.

I am doing A level geography in a few years, I will have to learn it properly.

Thanks for noticing  

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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:35 am

Hey thanks again Sean,

I'm not over familiar with the charts if I'm honest. Certainly we were on a Honily 1R SID from Manchester, Looking at the STAR for Gatwick, would we have gone all the way down to Midhurst?

This would make sense because we seemed to be messing about for ages before lining up.

Tim.
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RE: Help Needed Identifying Airfields

Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:10 am

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 16):
would we have gone all the way down to Midhurst?

The crew would certainly have had that STAR punched into the FMC and depending on the amount of other traffic going into Gatwick at the same time as you:

1. Little traffic - you may have been given radar vectors to the ILS before completing the STAR;

2. Moderate traffic - you will have flown to MID and got radar vectors from there;

3. Heavy traffic - you will have flown to MID, then on to the hold (as per the STAR diagram) to await your turn for the approach.

Or something closely resembling the above. Looking at the chart, that routing easily explains your pictures of Upper Heyford, Benson and Dunsfold out of the left hand side!

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