AKAU
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Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:18 pm

Hi all,

First time rejected for badangle+badinfo.
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ilename=AXR_gazelle_leluc05_ak.jpg

I fixed badinfo and tried to fix badangle and it was rejected again for badangle.
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ename=AXR_gazelle_leluc05_ak_b.jpg

I don't know how to fix it?

Cheers

Andreas
 
CallMeCapt
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RE: Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:27 pm

Definitely needs some CW rotation. Play around with it. Maybe 1 degree CW.
Great photo.
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Psych
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RE: Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:32 pm

Ah badcameraangle - home at last  biggrin 

Andreas - I think I can see the issue here. When I opened the first image the upright edge of the hangar on the far left of the frame - right next to the window of the browser - was sloping. In the newer version I can see you have made a slightly different crop, but that same vertical is still slightly off. Just to the left of the tail of the helicopter, there is some white at the bottom of that hangar door, indicating a gap, but that gap isn't there right at the top of the frame, indicating it isn't vertical.

I hope you can see what I mean.

Paul
 
AKAU
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RE: Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:45 pm

If i rotate 0.9 CW, the heli looks more level, but the vertical lines of the hangar doors are no more level. Which vertical or horizontal line should i use for reference?
 
CallMeCapt
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RE: Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:49 pm

I think you're stuck on this one. Literally, a bad camera angle.
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AKAU
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RE: Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:55 pm

When i use the "ladder" in the right of the picture, the heli looks good, but the hangar is completly crooked.

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I think you're stuck on this one. Literally, a bad camera angle.

Is it possible that a photo is not fixable?
 
IL76
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RE: Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:59 pm

Use the verticals when possible, preferable buildings rather than lamp posts. It's best to use verticals in the middle of the picture (if there are any). When using a wide angle lens, verticals on the far left and right can slope sometimes, and that's alright (can't be helped).

Both pictures need some CW rotation. Must say it's very little...

Eduard
 
CallMeCapt
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RE: Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:17 pm

It may be possible to fix using perspective cropping which can drag out the corners and make it look straight. email me using my profile and I'll give it a go.
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fergulmcc
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RE: Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:30 pm

Quoting CallMeCapt (Reply 7):
It may be possible to fix using perspective cropping which can drag out the corners and make it look straight.

You beat me to it Goran, Yes it can be fixed. When photographing buildings they will alway lean inwards and the two methods to correct this are to use a Tilt and shift lens, very expensive, the other is to bring it into PS and create a duplicate layer and free transform to image to correct the distortion caused by the lens.

Take care

Fergul Big grin  sun 
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CallMeCapt
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RE: Two Times Rejected For Badangle. Need Help To Fix.

Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:21 pm

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 8):
the other is to bring it into PS and create a duplicate layer and free transform to image to correct the distortion caused by the lens

Done it a few times this way and it's a pretty neat feature in PS.
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